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Just saying my peace cause my friend ( who works at a LHS wont say anything ) But i know 4 people that bought swifts and he's one of them. Out of 4 of us only 1 is running cause he has an inside connection somewhere for parts is what i hear. Yes i understand its a great bargain BUT its so frustrating going out each weekend only to come home early cause my swift broke again and i had to order the parts.I wish hobby stores around would carry parts. i bought an OFNA buggy and the storm and the only thing i say is i've been running non-stop for months instead of constantly working on my buggy. These arent perfect buggies also but i've gone through many gallons for each before i had to touch either of them. and 1 was for a wing. The key thing to remember is I BOUGHT READY TO RUN BUGGIES AND I RAN THEM WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM. Yes they were truly ready to runs but didn't come with an fm radio but i ran them 30 minutes after i bought them. My friend bought a mugen and so did the other former swift owner and i havn't heard anything go wrong yet but i went the way cheaper route and had the same luck. I wish my friend would speak out cause he inspired me to this but he's been professional at work and shuts up when asked about swifts. If he decides to tell people how he feels about his problems with swift and how they dont answer his emails it'd not be a good thing on their reputation to new buyers asking around not knowing to go to the internet. So they ask the LHS employees about things.

Oh P.S I know that nitro4mikey will comment on this cause he has his head so far up someone's where the sun dont shine that he's so defensive about everything anyone has to say negative about his precious company. You must get kickbacks or something. Well if we got the special treatment you seem to be getting we'd all be happy with our swifts wouldn't we? Just my 2 cents fellas :2cents:
 
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although my SWIFT had a few broken bones....
but i still love it... and maintain it well...
you just need to be patience and HAPPY with what you have....

and about the BIG HOLE in the upgraded shock tower.... CAM need to see it and give PRP and the machinist a BIG YELL.... stop the supply and rectify the holes....

by the way... WHAT IS THE CORRECT SIZE FOR THE SHOCKTOWER HOLES? i need to know so that i know the parts is the rectified ones...

:) mop :)

http://www.rcpics.net/member/Mop_iko
just uploaded few more videos.... with better music in it dudess....
 
was the hole for the suspensionpins in the front tower of the first swifts alright or not ??????
 
This question of shock tower holes seems to be blowing way out of proportion!

Using my digital vernier, the hinge pins are the 3.94mm dia and the shock tower holes are 4.72mm. This annoyed me a little cause most of Swift metal work is pretty good, however this won't stop your running the car.

A simple solution would be to find some brass tube with say a 4mm ID and epoxy a bushing into the shock tower holes. This would have the advantage that the hole wouldn't wear out either. No special tools would be required other than a dremel/cut off wheel or a hacksaw.

I would have done this myself except experience tells me 7075 towers are the way to go, even so I'm going to fit some grub screws to stop the hinge pins rotating & wearing out the holes.

If you think this is bad you should hear some of the problems I've had with my Kyosho Mp7.5 (Suspension hinge pin holes anyone!). :censored:

Tim.
 
i dont think its blown out of proportion. the hole should measure 4mm. at its current size its 20% oversize. this causes accellerated wear, and poor/unpredictable handling. i have a swift and so far havent been too pleased. I've broken every piece of carbon fiber on it, bent a chassis, bent 1 and broke 1 front shock tower, bent a rear shock shaft, and rear brake disk. I've also had a lot of plastic parts stripped out right from the factory. now PRP has sent replacements for the stripped stuff, but it took a while to get it too. my Xray has seen way worse abuse than my swift ever has and i havent had a single problem with it.
 
CorradoPsi said:
my Xray has seen way worse abuse than my swift ever has and i havent had a single problem with it.
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how much is one XRAY by the way? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
i think i will buy THUNDER TIGER on my next buggy.... hehehehe... JOKING.


i did realised when i BASHED.... i broke more parts... because there are hidden stones in the grass, hidden log in the bushes... etc etc...
when i race.... i didnt broke anything... because you are in a CONTROLLED TRACK with proper mounding, jumps, surface etc etc etc.....

so...

its all depend HOW YOU DRIVE.
DRIVE HARD = BROKEN BONES
DRIVE SMART = CHEQUERED FLAG in the hand.

but on the shock tower hole issue again... THAT THING NEED TO BE CORRECTED asap.... otherwise PRP will loose customer.

:) mop :)
 
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This thread has gone on forever. I love the setup of the buggy but havn't had much luck at all keeping it running consistently :( luckily my buddy gave me a few parts to get it running again. I have other vehicles and dont seem to have the problems with any of them that I've encountered with this buggy under simular driving conditions. But the airtronics radio that came with it is nice. Where can i buy the parts for this that's better quality than what came with it originally?
 
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nitro4joe said:
Where can i buy the parts for this that's better quality than what came with it originally?
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just upgrade your swift with your SWIFT UPGRADE parts.... the ones with the copper colour...

:) mop :)
 
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how much is one XRAY by the way? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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i have somewhere over $1200 in it. but the money doesn't matter if it performs the way i want, is built right, and doesn't break easily. i bought my Xray while my swift was broken and i couldnt get parts for it. i obviously had the money to fix it, but nowhere to get parts. go figure.
 
Oh P.S I know that nitro4mikey will comment on this cause he has his head so far up someone's where the sun dont shine that he's so defensive about everything anyone has to say negative about his precious company. You must get kickbacks or something. Well if we got the special treatment you seem to be getting we'd all be happy with our swifts wouldn't we? Just my 2 cents fellas :2cents:[/QUOTE]

First off, This is "not my company" I am a consumer just as everyone else, and I do not kiss azz nor do I have kick backs. I am not shy when it comes to asking for something I may need, or care to have. I am very persistant in my dealings regardless of who or what I deal for. I spend my money just as you but, it looks like I try harder to get a better deal regardless of who I deal with.

As for the negitivity, I personally like the Swift and just don't see it being as bad as you say it is. For the $ to me, its not bad. And I did say it did have it's quirks, and could be corrected.

Thanks for letting me know I kiss azz and have my head shoved somewhere it shouldn't be. :shrug:
 
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HONDA will never be EQUAL to McLAREN
TOYOTA will never be EQUAL to LEXUS (although they are in the same boat)

get it?

how much for a HONDA?
how much for a McLAREN?

how HONDA perform compared to McLaren?

so... more money... better car.
for the SWIFT.... you get what you pay.
and to me I HAVE NO PROBLEM with SWIFT VALUE FOR MONEY.
because i am expecting the performance from what i paid for.

easyyyyyyyy....

u got to live with it.

again.... i have no problem with my SWIFT.

:) mop :)
 
mop_iko said:
HONDA will never be EQUAL to McLAREN
TOYOTA will never be EQUAL to LEXUS (although they are in the same boat)

get it?

how much for a HONDA?
how much for a McLAREN?

how HONDA perform compared to McLaren?

so... more money... better car.
for the SWIFT.... you get what you pay.
and to me I HAVE NO PROBLEM with SWIFT VALUE FOR MONEY.
because i am expecting the performance from what i paid for.

easyyyyyyyy....

u got to live with it.

again.... i have no problem with my SWIFT.

:) mop :)
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Well said Mop,,,,,,

I just got back from funning about 5 tanks and had a frigging fun run. Nothing broke or tweeked, except my finger got a stupid burn from the exhaust when I shut it down.

Peace out.
 
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nitro4mikey said:
Oh P.S I know that nitro4mikey will comment on this cause he has his head so far up someone's where the sun dont shine QUOTE]

LOL ! :boxing:
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??? U laugh ???

I must make poop on you. :argue: :horsecrap Then we get :wasted:
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Mikeys
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Joeys
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I've read this thread from the very beginning and have been following it for months. I bought a Swift early on due to the awesome customer service and the effort to fix it's known issues. I have since become very dissatisfied for the same reason others have.

I feel as if we were the Beta Testers for the swift buggy. We found the bugs, the missed details, the inferior parts, the poorly designed parts and so on. We hung on for months and months waiting on decent CVDs, repeatedly hearing, "Well I told them to do <blank> but I guess they didn't listen." Now we are having factory problems with the new shock towers. Don't you guys do a test run and check the parts over before ordering full production? Where's our paycheck for doing R&D's job?

Now that the Swift 2 is out, with all the apparent Swift 1 problems fixed, I find it a real insult to be told to buy the upgrade parts to bring the Swift 1 up to par. You don't see Microsoft telling people to buy their latest Windows patch. Car makers don't tell people there's a recall on an item, please buy the new part and have it installed. That's because the problem is THEIR FAULT. Customers, I believe anyways, should not have to pay to fix the problems manufacturers are responsible for.

Personally, I have only had 1 major problem with my swift, mainly because I can hardly use it. Because I live at 7300+ft above sea level, instead of experiencing different running characteristics due to the amount of fuel in the tank, my car either runs or doesn't run. Between 1/2 and full tank, the car runs awesome and is a blast to drive. Under 1/2 tank, I can't get the car started. My options are to tune the engine 3 times per tank of fuel, constantly top off the tank or buy some Mugen part and make it fit. I'm not planning on doing any of those things. The Mugen lid is simple for some, but I don't have LHS which means I have to order some $1.00 part, pay $5.00 to ship it and then wait 2 weeks for it to finally show up. Maybe I'm unreasonable, but in my mind that's pretty ridiculous. But, then again, I think paying for upgrade/pro parts to fix problems that should have been discovered within a week of testing a prototype out is pretty ridiculous too.
 
Now that the Swift 2 is out, with all the apparent Swift 1 problems fixed, I find it a real insult to be told to buy the upgrade parts to bring the Swift 1 up to par. You don't see Microsoft telling people to buy their latest Windows patch. Car makers don't tell people there's a recall on an item, please buy the new part and have it installed. That's because the problem is THEIR FAULT. Customers, I believe anyways, should not have to pay to fix the problems manufacturers are responsible for.
I must agree with you there, and would hope to see some changes for the 1st run buyers.
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I must agree with you there, and would hope to see some changes for the 1st run buyers.
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then they will ask you about your purchase receipt or the sticker on the box to be included as evidence!!!!!! LOL....

OK SERIOUS......
WAGNER got a really hard time dealing with those chinese.
At least give him some applause to that. i mean it!

but as i put it on my earlier post...... PRP has to do something about this issue which is some sort of selling unfinished product (with the defects) to customers.... if its in the early stage maybe we can for go with it... but if its still occuring AFTER a year or so.... i am afraid PRP will loose customers.....


but still.... i love my SWIFT. that is why i say these things.


:) mop :)
 
to buy a car just because of customer service is crap, you buy a car cause its proven, if you dont your a fool and deserve what you get, I wouldnt buy a nz made car against a mugen or kyosho till it had proven to be a well made and reliable car for a year, and even then ui would be cautious. hope you get what I'm getting at !!!!!
 

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