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PJD vs. OCC vs. WCC

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I've been watching american chopper for awhile now. I hate to see father and son at arms like that, but i understand why. I wish they would cut out the drama crap and just show them building bikes. The last few episodes have been better now that the lawsuit is settled.

Jesse was crazy on the last show. I understand where he is coming from about how they dont actually build anything, but its OCC that is like that. They take a frame, and fenders and hack them up to fit there need, instead of making there own like jesse does.

PJD does actually built parts from scratch, and has a metal working guy on staff. If Rick left OCC, it would tank. Although I'm sure there are tons of metal guys who would love to work there.

I guess Jason took pauls place in design, but some of that stuff is just crap. seriously. Did you guys see where he got all pissy and pushed the bike off the lift? Sr should have stomped a mud hole in him for that one.

Sr should have thrown the cake against the window and let it slide down. Like bart did on the simpsons movie..
 
Sucks I am not going to get to watch it. I will have to find a re-run or something because this is going to be good. So what was up with this cake incident? Does anyone have a link to a clip?
 
Sucks I am not going to get to watch it. I will have to find a re-run or something because this is going to be good. So what was up with this cake incident? Does anyone have a link to a clip?


I will try to be tactful as possible, yet still explain to you joe.

Jesse sent two cakes. one to OCC and one to PJD. Both were in the shape of a male torso that was "anatomically correct on viagra". It had "OCC for life" written on the chest to look like a tatoo, and the card included said "I hope your bike "measures up".
 
I will try to be tactful as possible, yet still explain to you joe.

Jesse sent two cakes. one to OCC and one to PJD. Both were in the shape of a male torso that was "anatomically correct on viagra". It had "OCC for life" written on the chest to look like a tatoo, and the card included said "I hope your bike "measures up".


Now that's funny. :hehe:

I'm more into stealthed bikes. There's this british bloke who has a business in the states. His first name is Russell I think, but love his bikes.

Nevermind, found it. It's Excile Cycles, and the name is Russell Mitchel.
 
I am not at home or watching a lot of tv lately but from what i gather there is going to be a 3 way build between Sr. , Jr., and Jesse ... Just to put in my 2 cents... Jesse James is a true fabricator, he started young building VW Bugs and later bikes... He is self made and is a true biker outlaw... He rode a hard tail from california to sturgis... I dont know if its the fame of being on Tv but when I met him i thought he was kind of a peepee... He will now put his name on anykind of crap ... I bought a shirt from his long beach shop and for the amount of money he charges I woulda thought he could have at least used a quality tshirt, nope... I have a friend who got 2nd hand fenders that were from him and they were thin... if your gonna put your name on something... make it worth buying... as for paul... he has never worked for anyone other than his father before going on his own and needed to finally get away... Jr is a genious when it comes to fabricating bikes but i dont think he had much luck when trying the design thing before opening his own shop... those theme bikes they are building arent being sold for $65 k... they are asking better than twice that for the big builds... and if you notice a lot of the builds from the show are in srs. display at OCC... Sr is just a prick who would love to see his son fail... in the end i think PJD will be bigger than OCC... but sr has built himself a pretty impressive empire... back to the contest... no doubt Sr will be last and the only contribution wil be his lip service... jr takes his design seriously so i think he will come in 1st... but no doubt jesse will come up with something good...
 
Exile bikes are awesome. There are only a few custom builders that I would buy from and he is one of them. Roland Sands also makes some killer cafes which are more my style.
 
I don't like Russlle Mitchell he's too much of a prima donna and quite frankly thinks his crap don't stink. His bikes all look the same flat black with brushed aluminum. SNOOOOZE! At least Jesse tries to do different things and use different materials. Anybody remember the bike he built with the copper tank and fenders? "FREE RICK"!
 
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I guess Jason took pauls place in design, but some of that stuff is just crap. seriously. Did you guys see where he got all pissy and pushed the bike off the lift? Sr should have stomped a mud hole in him for that one.

I can just imagine the chaos that would have ensued, if Pauly had done that, when he was still at OCC? Sr. would never have let him get away with that, like he did Jason.
 
Exile builds the same thing over and over but russel did design the throttle clutch and on another build show he did a trike that had a limited slip diff... so mechanically he is a designer as well... i wouldnt buy a bike from him... I think the best builder in the world is a guy by the name of Matt Hotch out of Palm Springs Ca. ... Hot Match Customs... you dont see much of him in the TV spotlight since the original biker build offs... Matt Hotch took 1st prize overall in both seasons of that show and for the bike he built in season 1 he was given an open tab and the bike sold for over $200k ... 2nd place overall builder is out of Dallas tx... Martin Brothers... Joe Martin does ALL of his own fabrication and paint himself... and he puts out some of the craziest bikes youve ever seen...

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I like how Sr. Thinks he builds bikes when he doesn't do anything except put 1 or 2 parts on a bike



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Yeah I know and he used to gripe about how Pauly never did anything around the shop but he would let Mikey get away with murder. I really like Matt Hotch and the Martin Brothers. Joe is super talented does all his own fab and paint plus also plays guitar in a band with his brother."FREE RICK"!
 
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jr bike is going to be sick and what is occ doing its not a bike its a idk but no bike.
 
Paul Jr. then Jessie, then senior in last place.
That's the order they'll finish in, and I'm taking no markers.
That was from post #7, and I'm sticking to it.


Jessie? Pretty much same ole, same ole. Nice bike, hand built but nothing special.
Senior? What part of that thing qualifies as a bike? I think he intended to smash the competition by going WAY over the top. Amazing machine...NOT a bike. Not even in the park.
Paul Jr.? His designing genius shines with this one. Absolutely spectacular. I'd even say it's AWESOME.
 
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