jon2 - i have seen christians car, and it is good. hehe, i sounded like a minister.
but seriously, i run an OS cv-r with the AE pipe, and id say that christians NTC3 was as fast, if not faster than mine. that setup is awesome. i probably would have gone with it too, but wanted to stay with a side exhaust due to cost.
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BTW - last night i installed the new Golden horizons 3mm 7075 lightened chassis on the NTC3 - looks great, can't wait to see how it handles. i had major tweak in my last chassis.