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joneser4u

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well bashed the snot outa the revo today and right before i took it out decided to pull the rpm offset wheels off 1 of my savages to try on the revo. cost me a steering knuckle. i also did a number to a old body i had layin around. i was jumping in a constuction site next to the house getting 4/5 feet of air when i landed on a big ass rock with one wheel. snap that was all for the revo today. ohh well it was a load of fun and i decided early in the run i need some heavier fluid in all 3 diffs, so a teardown was coming anyway! i love warm weather!!! can't wait to get back to everyday bashing again.:bow:
 
RPM carriers will help with downtime/cost, but they will still just pop loose on you. Better than breaking though.

I found that if I ran just a hair above level with P2 rockers/rod collars and in the middle hole on the RPM arms, the RPM carriers almost never popped off and I never busted a shock shaft again. Prior to that setup, I was running P2's in the closest to center hole. I'd pop one of the pivot balls at least twice a bash session and snap a shock shaft on big air/tumbles about once every other session.

I ran in the middle hole for a good year without a single issue... other than bottoming out hard.

Mine was all with standard no-offset t-maxx 2.5 wheels. I never had the guts to run 1/2" off set on that thing... it was too fragile as it was!
 
RPM carriers will help with downtime/cost, but they will still just pop loose on you. Better than breaking though.

I found that if I ran just a hair above level with P2 rockers/rod collars and in the middle hole on the RPM arms, the RPM carriers almost never popped off and I never busted a shock shaft again. Prior to that setup, I was running P2's in the closest to center hole. I'd pop one of the pivot balls at least twice a bash session and snap a shock shaft on big air/tumbles about once every other session.

I ran in the middle hole for a good year without a single issue... other than bottoming out hard.

Mine was all with standard no-offset t-maxx 2.5 wheels. I never had the guts to run 1/2" off set on that thing... it was too fragile as it was!

ya, i was really thinking about the rpm true track(??) rear setup and some rpm for the front too. you talk of yours in past tence, could i talk you into tellin why you got rid of it? i know you gave up on the maxx for good reason:thumbup:hope thats not the reason for poop canning the revo? ill be going back to the stock maxx wheels with the mashers, no more offsets even after the rpm upgrade. but i have had some shock problems and havnt really done nowhere near as crazy stuff as I've done to my savages. i have also noticed alot of slop in my stock shock mounts? bumpers dont last very long at all. i dont want to alloy(bling) this think out like my maxx and really hope it doesn't need it!:surrender

btw thanks for the suspension setup,think ill give it a try.
 
I ditched it because I drove a buddies LST2... then shortly thereafter got the aftershock.

I upgraded the revo to make it as tough as I could, but it still didn't handle/perform the way I wanted. It was far better than the maxx or savage, but it didn't hold a candle to my aftershock. No matter what I did for the suspension, I couldn't find a happy medium that would allow big air and a non bouncy ride in the rough stuff. Stiffer springs/oil that handled the air made it drive like a flatbed pickup down the railroad tracks, just bounced all over. If I set it up to be nice and cushy and to do mild 2-4 foot jumps, it would bottom out so hard on 6-10 foot air that the chassis would bend and mess up gear alignment. Also, with the stiffer setup, I bent pushrods and busted rockers. Even with the soft setup and P2's, it would skip all over the MX track in the washboards and pretty much everywhere else. Like driving a skateboard on ice. Even with the right tires for racing (sticky HPI bones), 18TM, 3.3 chassis, typical spring/oil setup for racers.

If I were a racer and had a track accessible, it would have been a great truck for me. But, having the areas I have to bash, some are flat with low jumps, some aren't. I don't want to have to completely reconfigure my suspension to change bashing scenes... I needed a truck that could do both and do both well while not busting in half at 10-15 feet of air.

The aftershock (heavily upgraded) was my answer. I sold my revo and savage a month after getting the aftershock due to lack of driving them.

This was just my progression over the past 5 years or so. First was t-maxx... broke a lot, underpowered. Upgraded it to the 9's for durability, added power with a BB conversion, still broke diffs/axles frequently.

Gave up, bought a savage, upgraded for big air/general bashing. Could take a beating like none-other. Handled like a brick.

Got a revo. Great handling, didn't care for big air or rough tracks.

Got a mammoth... just sucked in general. Like driving a log. Was big and heavy, diffs were junk, aluminum was soft, shocks were weak.

Got a cheap 1/8 buggy roller, loved it for all things mentioned above. Tough, big air, rough track... but frequently got small rocks jammed in wheels in many of the areas I run which caused wheel breakage and axle/arm tweaking.

Got an aftershock. Upgraded arms, 2 speed, turnbuckles, engine, smaller tires. Fast, likes big air, tough, handles fantastically, generally an impressive machine all around.

I now have 3 rigs and I have to fight in my mind equally for each to get run time. I like them all the same, but for completely different reasons. Aftershock, 1/8 Jammin XB buggy, Jato w/18TM and buggy wheel conversion (RPM arms). All three are equally tough. All 3 are equally fast. The aftershock does the best in taller grass due to it's hight and can handle big air. The buggy does good everywhere else and also likes big air. The jato does good in short grass and is just fast as all get out on pavement.

Sorry for the dissertation... but that's how my story went as soon as I got into the MT world.

EDIT:
Holy friggin YAPPING SOM-BIOTCH!!!! I'm really sorry for all the words, but they are typed now and I don't have the heart to delete them...
 
damn olds, you really should be a mod! I'm gonna start consulting you before i purchase anymore trucks. lol

all in all i did buy the revo to race,there was 4 tracks within reasonable driving distance but they all closed at the end of last season?! i can't just let it sit so i gotta bash it until a new track opens(they are building a nice track alittle farther than id like to drive but beggers can't be choosers).
 
I've toyed with the idea of getting an on-road just to build up some experience with them as tuning the chassis is very key. Not so important on a 15lb MT... lol But learning the subtle nuances of chassis tuning for on-road may help me tune my buggy, jato and aftershock for desired handling. Bah... heck with it!

After having the jato though, I think my need for on-road speed is being filled.

The true track RPM arms didn't come out until after I got rid of the revo. I also upgraded the shock shafts to TiNi after snapping two or three stockers. Didn't have that issue again, but I think it was more due to changing the mounting position of the pushrods on the arms.
 
i have some very fast onroads and use to parking lot race them at acouple of hobbytowns before they shut down:\ now they rarely get run at all. ill take em out maybe 10 times a year tops and try to run all 4 just to keep em running. hoping for a good onroad track to open sometime this season, i always kicked ass on gran turismo thank to the knowledge of tuning my tc's for the different tracks. but then again its just so much easier to go out the door and throw it down in the yard an take off, then to drive/find and inspect an empty parking lot to run in.

and I'm pretty positive that jato will smoke that rc10gt i got from badsneaker and that little rc10 is silly fast, i love it. so id say your getting a great speed fix from the jato. the only real thing that i love other than racing tc's is painting lids for them, i lost count how many lids I've got for em. they last alot longer so i will spend alittle more time and add more detail compared to offroad lids.
 
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