Nitrous Oxide Boost for RC Engines

[RobH]

looking at the picture, i can't even imaging how you have those fittings attached to the top of the bottles! this is a trade secret i'm sure as you'll be able to market custom rc nos refills. i also noticed that the value is a custom job made out of a slug of aluminum.

getting this from a cool prototype to a manufactureable product is going to take some work. i would guess much much more work than the prototype itself.

are you going to go for it? are we, someday, going to be able to order the system off your website?

 

[maxxheadroom]

We are anticipating a release date as soon as October 1st!

 

[raceman]

hey those look like the co2 bottles i use for my little paintball gun.Maybe i can mke my own nitrous boots:devious: :devious:

 

[maxxheadroom]

They are similar, however these have a valve in the bottle.

 

[FastEddy]

As mentioned above any performance mod on an engine will decrease the life.

Without being sarcastic, I noticed an unusual amount of oil spray under your clutch bell. I'm "assuming" its from a worn front bearing if so, how many tanks are through the engine and how may times has it been run beyond the 40,000 rpm range.

 

[maxxheadroom]

That particular engine was used previously before I got my hands on it, I am not sure how many tanks were put through it before I got it. I can say it had that leak before we started doing our nitrous testing. Currently I have put over 8 gallons of fuel through that engine, and over 100 tanks of nitrous.

 

[FastEddy]

Without getting in a pissing contest,
I don't believe you.

First, any engine run under ideal conditions on the rich side would be hard pressed to get 8 gallons of fuel with out a rebuild. It has been done, but I have never heard it from a reliable source.

Second, We would have to Imagen that the previous owner had run it to some extent.

Third, You have admittedly pushed the engine beyond its capacities over 100 times.

Hearing a statement like the one you made makes me wonder about the validity of all your information.

Yes I believe you are trying to do something different.

Yes I believe you are testing and trying to come up with the best possible product you can.

Yes I believe you are knowledgeable about RC engines.

This is not a post to flame you, However I become very protective of our forum when it comes to what I believe to be Bad Information. If I miss understood that you have put over 8 gallons of fuel through a used engine and have run over 100 bottles of NOX on top of that please correct me. If you exaggerated, please let us know so we can move forward.

Thanks,

-Ed

 

[maxxheadroom]

Let me clarify I was thinking only of that front bearing, all the bearings are origonal, as is the crank, the piston and sleeve have been replaced, we ran about 4 gallons through it, it was tired when we replaced the piston and sleeve, sorry I should have mentioned that earlier.

 

[FastEddy]

I appreciate the clarification,
Are there any other missing facts or clarifications that need to be made in an any of your previous posts, if so please let us know.

This is an interesting project and would like the entire truth good or bad. Having prototyped may products in the past it is relevant that all the facts be on the table not just the good ones. Believe it or not, you have a huge collective of knowledgeable people here that may be able to help you through some rough spots. Input is a necessary part of R and D but all the facts must be clear.

Thanks for your quick response and clarification.

-Ed

 

[maxxheadroom]

I have been very open and honest from day one about our kit, Sorry I forgot we replaced a P/S no big deal. As far as R&D goes we actually have people working with us on the project, which includes people doing reviews on them, I do thank you for your suggestion though.

 

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[Rex2342]

This is what someone posted on another site recently about this stuff http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1165902/mpage_1/key_scam/anchor/tm.htm#1165902

 

[Nitroaddict]

Originally posted by Rex2342
This is what someone posted on another site recently about this stuff http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1165902/mpage_1/key_scam/anchor/tm.htm#1165902

wow - this comes as a suprise.

 

[Scummer]

Well.. it does say N2O in his signature, which is in fact the nitrous oxide that is used to boost performance in a car engine for example.
Why the dude in the other forum mentioned, it should be NO2 is beyond me, but he obviously does not know what the real molecule structure behind nitrous oxide is.

Thomas

 

[Rex2342]

He may have gotten them mixed up or he may be full of it but I figured I'd throw this out there in case anyone was thinking about buying it.

 

[Scummer]

Originally posted by Rex2342
He may have gotten them mixed up or he may be full of it but I figured I'd throw this out there in case anyone was thinking about buying it.

Yep... but sofar his rants about the Nitrous setup being a scam has no validation. If he would have used the setup actually and posted some hard evidence, now that would be totally different.

It could be a scam, no doubt, but that needs to be proven first with hard, scientific evidence. Innocent, until proven guilty.

Thomas

 

[Nitroaddict]

NO2 is nitrogen dioxide - basically, what we breath out when we exhale.

N2O is nitrous Oxide - what is used in laughing gas at the dentist, and also in nitrous automotive systems. Although in automotive form it is combined with Sodium Clorate (CLO2) to prevent ingesting ability in humans.

 

[maxxheadroom]

It can also be combined with sulfer Dioxide to prevent human ingestion. This guy is a joke he was extremely rude on my forum, then comes to RCU making claims about me, and stating things I never said. He will be delt with.

Just on a side not how about this graph, red is without nitrous (25% nitro) and blue is with nitrous. This was done by a volunteer in Indiana he is one of the best drag racers in the country, right now he is running 1/10 of a second under the national record for his class. These charts were produced by him:

Please note this is a 17.8% increase in RPM, also MPH without nitrous was 77.8MPH with nitrous it jumped to 94.5 MPH not to bad considering he went from 0-94.5 in less than three seconds!

 

[Scummer]

Originally posted by maxxheadroom
It can also be combined with sulfer Dioxide to prevent human ingestion. This guy is a joke he was extremely rude on my forum, then comes to RCU making claims about me, and stating things I never said. He will be delt with.

Just on a side not how about this graph, red is without nitrous (25% nitro) and blue is with nitrous. This was done by a volunteer in Indiana he is one of the best drag racers in the country, right now he is running 1/10 of a second under the national record for his class. These charts were produced by him:

Please note this is a 17.8% increase in RPM, also MPH without nitrous was 77.8MPH with nitrous it jumped to 94.5 MPH not to bad considering he went from 0-94.5 in less than three seconds!

You got a name of this volunteer? Maybe some pics of his/her runs?
Only through a peer review can claims be acknowledged or proven wrong.

Thomas

 

[Jarc]

Originally posted by maxxheadroom
When nitrous oxide is injected into the engine and finds it's way to the combustion chamber it breaks apart into nitrogen, and oxygen. This reaction is what is know as an endothermic reaction. What this means is when the reaction takes place it is actually using heat. So you inject an already cold gas, then you add an endothermic reaction on top of that.

If i remember right from my science class.... A property of nitrous oxide is that at about 500+ f degrees, it breaks down into nitrogen and oxygen. So this breakdown your talking about in the combustion chamber wont happen untill the piston is on an upstroke. Unless the chamber itself is super-heated to 500+ f degrees. Its not using heat.. it NEEDS heat to achive the breakdown at a molucular level. If its never hot enough. it wont break down.

Question is if this works on paper like it should... will the engines handle the heat required to perform a proper endothermic reaction in the cumbustion chamber? 500+ degrees is alot without having a piston stroke to compress the air/fuel mix. Most manufac's like too see a 300 or less surface temp when running motors.... Something is a bit off base on temp if thats what your counting on to perform the "super charging."

i think further testing on this matter is needed thats for sure....