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Hi Mpinpoint! Any luck starting your Truck?

Just to let you know ..... I had the same prob with my Savage after I left it idle for a few weeks. It's fierce cold here in Ireland and I've had to adjust both the HSN and the LSN and the Idle adjustment screw!! Remember if your truck is new ..... the factory settings run great ......in ideal conditions! I found after about 12 tanks of fuel and a little rough terrain I had to tweak the settings a little.
Bob.
 
If you have completed all that I suggested and still have no luck, there might be something more involved wrong.

Is fuel getting to the engine? If not, check for an air leak.

Is the EZ start system providing the power that the glo-plu needs? Check this by removing the plug and attaching the blue starter wire to it. Press the go button on the EZ start and look for a nice white hot glowing coil. If the coil is dull red under power, then the EZ start is not doing what it needs to do for the glo-plug. Time to get a separate ignitor or recharge the EZ start battery.

Have you checked the engine for good compression? If the engine spins freely, there might be something wrong inside.

The only other suggestion I have for you is to prime the engine, put a glo-ignitor on for a few extra seconds to allow the chamber to get some extra pressure build up. Then give it a go. This works even better when the engine block is pre-heated by a hair dryer or heat gun.

Let us know how things go.
 
i had the same problem today i looked and did all the things yall are saying nuthing worked then i finnaly noticed a cut in the lead glow plug wire (the blue one) i changed it with a new one and it started immediately check the wire
 
Originally posted by SkyMaxx
Alrighty then.

You have replaced the glo-plug. News flash, glo-plugs can burn up on one start or after a year of starts. It is not beyond reality to recommend that you check the plug.

The needle settings have been hit on a couple of times and the idle setting (1mm gap) has already been addressed twice.

If the temps are as cold in Herndon as I have read about, that adds to the fun of trying to start the engine. Using the EZ start without a separate glo-ignitor is also going to add to the fun of starting an engine on a really cold day.

The best thing you can do:
1. Reset the idle set screw so that you have a gap in the carb when the throttle is closed. That gap should be about the thickness of a credit card (1-2mm).
2. Reset the engine's needles (HSN and LSN) to factory presets.
3. Get the hair dryer or heat gun out. When you try to start the engine, give the engine about two minutes of time with the hair dryer blowing on it. This should heat the engine block and head up sufficiently.
4. Make certain you prime the engine and then give it a go. If the EZ Start still does not start the engine up for you, I recommend investing in a separte glo-ignitor. After you have one, then try steps one through three (above) again. If the engine still doesn't start, there might be a bigger problem.

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News flash if the glow plug was bad then there wouldn't be exaust now would there.

Originally posted by tam13
i had the same problem today i looked and did all the things yall are saying nuthing worked then i finnaly noticed a cut in the lead glow plug wire (the blue one) i changed it with a new one and it started immediately check the wire
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Hey you know what my wire is damged too. But why would it effect if the engein keeps idelling or not? Oh and if anyone still has a hard time understaning what i mean. What i mean is the engien will idle, but only if the e-z start is on wonce it is of it wont idle. So the engien starts then stalls.

i will try the wire

oh yae full is reaching the engien

i tried today and it is about 38 and it still wouldn't work

oh skymaxx i appreciate your help.
 
There would be smoke if you glow plug is weak. Also, the blue wire shorting out or not making good contact on the plug may not be heating it well enough. A glow plug that is on it's last leg, will work when the electricity is applied. As soon as it's taken away (ez start is off) it doesn't have enough good left in it to stay hot.

I still say get a stand alone glow ignitor. It's $15 and you don't have to depend on the es-start to heat the plug for you. It allows you to take the ez-start wire problem out of the equation.
 
Originally posted by MpinPoint

News flash if the glow plug was bad then there wouldn't be exaust now would there.

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oh skymaxx i appreciate your help.
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Due to the last line, I'll tone down my initial reaction to your post.

Depending on the glo-plug and the strength of the power going to it, you could get exhaust. When you turn over the engine with the EZ start, you still get fuel flow. If that fuel is not getting burnt in the chamber then it will exit the engine via the exhaust port.

So, you will still get something out of the exhaust regardless of the plug being burnt or not. If the plug is working a little, then the exhaust might have some smoke mixed with the spewing fuel. If the plug is toast, then only dirty unburnt fuel/oil will come out of the exhaust (and there will be some exhaust air as well).

The thought on the shorting blue wire is one more reason to try a separate glo-ignitor.

As for why is the engine struggling, I will once again point to the temperatures. If the engine is not tuned for cold weather running and/or is not properly warmed up, the engine will struggle until it gets up to normal operating temperatures. So it will love you and keep running if you keep the EZ start on it because you are applying juice to the glo-plug and thus forcing ignition of the fuel via a the glo-ignitor vice via the compression stroke of the engine.
 
It happened again for me so this is what i did.
Get a Glow plug Igniter ( i used an HPI one )
Put the glo in, start the truck. it should run with the glo igniter in.
leave it in and do about 4 minutes of driving (on raod).
It should heat it up enaugh to work. and if it idles and sounds like it is skipping once in a while, replace the plug and do it again.
 
Don't leave in the glow ignitor. If your r/c dies once it's taken out, you may need to lean out the HSN needle. The car should be able to run once the ignitor is taken out. If it idles then dies when you give it a little gas, lean out the LSN.

In everything you do to the needles, do it in SMALL adjustments. Generally 1/8 of a turn at a time. If all else fails, bring it back to manufacturer settings and retune.
 
well i have improve ment on the way my car i running. and it will run. but know after it is running, my cluck seemes to be stuck. it is engaded all the time. even when it is not running.


new post help cool air intake.

oh yea i am going to get that glow starter i just got enough money. Family beting on the big game.:thumbsup:
 
If you can't break it driving it, use a hammer. If you still can't break it, loan it to me!

yay destruction

i have to look at my cluch again i gess.
is their a certien way to re install it? please tell me
 
Yeah. there is a way, is it still stuck???
If it is, than remove the c clip at the end of the clutch bell, and pull it off. (make sure that the springs dont fling away) and pull the clutch shoes off. if there is a missing spring, replace it. scuff up the outer part of the clutch shoe, and the inside of the clutch bell. it should be fine then!
Good Luck!!!
 
Depending on the clutch, there may just be one spring that wraps around the shoes. I don't have experience with any other type. Just this type:
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If the spring is broke and the clutch shoes are relativly worn, buy a new set of shoes and normally with stock a spring comes with it.
 
yep i have that cluch. but how do you put it back> is it a special way?
 
Put the shoes in with the non attached end trailing the rotation for normal use.

If you put them in upside down, you get better torque off the line, but i tried it and didn't notice much difference. But i smoked the shoes a lot quicker than i did having them the normal way.
 

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