Gear change issues.

[M Shark]

I have a brand new Savage 4.6 that I just finished with the tuning and I don't seem to notice it changing gears.

How would I know if it's changing gears too early or too late? I tried to adjust the shift point a little later thinking it's shifting gears too early but it still wouldn't change gears.

I'll try again tomorrow and maybe adjust it to shift a little earlier as it's already dark.

But out of the box shouldn't it at least shift gears whether late or early instead of not shifting at all?

 

[olds97_lss]

It may be shifting so early that your not noticing it.

Try holding it off the ground and gently apply throttle. You should hear the engine pitch drop in RPM's when it shifts.

Or, if it's brand new and you haven't broken it in yet, then you shouldn't be worrying about 2nd gear. I don't usually hit 2nd gear until I get about 250cc's through my engines. Even then, I don't hit it very long.

 

[M Shark]

I geuss so. I barely floor the truck since the last time I was tuning it I melted the spur gear. i floored it a few times just to get an idea of the shift point.

When I was adjusting it I was turning it in 180° increments instead of the 90° as advised in the manual just to get a head start. I turned it a total of 3 times before I called it quits for now as it was already getting dark.

 

[mxrider076]

if its a brand new truck then it shouldnt need to be adjust ( the tranny) after the full length break in process you go to tuning. when tuning you will notice a little better improvement in speed and reaction time as your tuning the HSN. Once you have the HSN tuned out to the right spot it will shift and you will see this when you are doing your 1/8 turns. My advice would be to set your needles back to factory including your tranny and then start the tuning process over again. The newer gen 13's you shouldnt have to mess with the shift point unless your intentionally doing it for better response time later on

 

[M Shark]

Thanks rider! I was thinking of doing that. I felt that somewhere down the line I cheated on the tuning process but that was only because it was a pain in the arse to start up the truck.

I kept messing with the idle, HSN and a couple 1/4 turns on the LSN to get the truck to at least start and keep idle going. However I blew the spur gear which I believe the slipper pad was set too loose from factory.

But after more than 8 tanks total (followed the break-in to a T at first) , I'm sure the truck is broken in enough.

I'll set the HSN and LSN back to flush and turn the tranny back 1 &1/2 turns.

So you mean to say that proper tuning will affect shifting?

 

[Alexander_0_1]

I think proper tuning will affect power delivery from you clutch bell and spur mesh, which should let you know if your shifting at all....if you use all the power in your engine and still not shifting then something is defiantly wrong, I think you should hear your engine top out if it doesn't shift, I tried to tune by sound I've had mixed affects so far. Some good some bad, but it's a learning curve

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Someone told me that you will hear the engine bog if the shift points are set to long, your transmission should shift before your engine maxes out. Not sure about this though haven't tried to tune my savage 3speed for long shift points yet, but I trust the guy....I suppose?

I'll have to try it for myself.

 

[mxrider076]

Thanks rider! I was thinking of doing that. I felt that somewhere down the line I cheated on the tuning process but that was only because it was a pain in the arse to start up the truck.

I kept messing with the idle, HSN and a couple 1/4 turns on the LSN to get the truck to at least start and keep idle going. However I blew the spur gear which I believe the slipper pad was set too loose from factory.

But after more than 8 tanks total (followed the break-in to a T at first) , I'm sure the truck is broken in enough.

I'll set the HSN and LSN back to flush and turn the tranny back 1 &1/2 turns.

So you mean to say that proper tuning will affect shifting?

Yes indeed proper tuning goes a long way.. when set back to factory settings on all your needles, always tune the HSN first. Only tune the LSN if you have to or if you want to increase torque. The idle should be the last thing you adjust after tuning your HSN and LSN (if you need). Also be sure you only do 1/8 turns ( 1 hour turns ) this way you dont make it too lean or rich and allows the motor to adjust properly. Hope you get it figured out.. once you get the tuning down then you can pretty much do it whenever is needed since you will know what to look for and listen for. Good luck