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Originally posted by FastEddy
Woodie,
Is it possible to have the gallery hosted on a different plan?
If so, members that want to utilize the gallery past say a 5 pic limit could join with a yearly fee and relieve the RCNT server from the BW.

-Ed
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I for one am game for that idea and would sign up.
 
It would be nice if the members that use the forum on a rergular basis would give a little bit every once in a while. It's not like we are all broke. Look at the amount of money that we spend on the hobby and the amount of information that we get from this site.

Oh hello!!!!
https://www.rcnitrotalk.com/forum/show.php?pg=donate
 
Originally posted by WoodiE
I fully understand there a young and old members that just can not afford to donate, why punish them because some kid can't donate?

-Michael
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I disagree with you big time on this one WoodiE. I think everyone on here could pony up a couple of bucks. Even the guys that don't have much money still have a $200 RC or better so what's a couple of dollars? It's the fact that 1. they are too lazy to give the money, or 2. they have "better stuff" to spend it on as they figure this is free why give money unless you HAVE to. Everyone that visits this site has a computer, internet access, and most likey a better than Radio Shack RC, that tells me they are not eating from food stamps and freezing their asses off because they cannot afford heat.

I cannot begin to express the time and money I have saved by other helpful memebers giving me information on this site. Whether it was a "stear clear of this junk" or getting my engine tuned, to things like a failsafe and a fuel filter that have saved me tons of money. I would not know about these things if it were not for RCNT.
 
I would be more than willing to thin out my gallery if Woodie says it will help.


On a side note, while I have donated, along with others, I dont feel that belitting the members who havnt is the right way to go about the problem. This is a free site. Donating is an option, but no one should be made to feel like less of a member if they choose not too.
 
Originally posted by Nitroaddict
I would be more than willing to thin out my gallery if Woodie says it will help.


On a side note, while I have donated, along with others, I dont feel that belitting the members who havnt is the right way to go about the problem. This is a free site. Donating is an option, but no one should be made to feel like less of a member if they choose not too.
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On my own side note, I find it funny that non-contributers express how pissed it makes them when they cannot get on, but they can't get their wallet out and help a little. I am directing my comments to the above linked top 50 posters. The people that obviously use the site the most. And talk about belittling other members NA, do I need to start post quoting?
 
Well I just deleted about 20 pics from my gallery. Everyone should look at their galleries and get rid of old pics. I bet there are hundreds that can be deleted. I am also going to start using the image hosting service that comes with my AOHell account.

I enjoy this site and have learned more than I would have ever learned elsewhere. While I have contributed in the past and have access to the secret forum, I just sent over another 10 bucks. I am also going to try and remember to sent over some bucks each month. I look at it like a magazine subscription. This site is worth it.

I am in complete agreement with HB on this issue.


Rob
 
I am not attempting to get into a pissing match with you, so just calm down there buddy.

All i am saying is that when members sign up, they know this is a free site - and can understandably be bummed out when they cannot sign on. They didnt know why, just that the site they like isnt available to them. No one should ever have to feel like its manditory to contribute, if they want to partake in the RCNT community, and I am sure that Woodie would agree with me.

This is a good site. It is free. Period.

If someone wants to donate money for the cause, great!

But if someone chooses not to, he shouldnt be looked down upon, as this site is still free.


You sound like the guy in office space:

"Now 20 pieces of flair is the minimum. If you want to do the minimum, thats okay, but more flair can be used to express yourself, and we encourage that"

LOL
 
I am not trying to get into a pissing match either and if you need to continue it PM me or feel free to email me. My point is don't throw stones if you live in a glass house NA.

And again I will re-iterate that all my comments are directed to the Top 50 Poster list. These people, myself included use the site a lot more than the average Joe. Why yes I can totally agree with you on keeping the site free to the general public and not making people feel like that have top give, but to me those Top 50 it is a no brainer. I can look down upon people that use and mooch if I want to, I detest that behavior on the internet and in life. It is my right to my opinion period. My dad is even a cheap bastard like that and I tell him like I see it also.

Originally posted by robmob
I look at it like a magazine subscription. This site is worth it.

Rob
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Yeah and all of the RC mags combined do not contain the kind of content that can be found here. I have pretty much bought them all and it's mostly ads, or biased reviews always in favor of the manufacturer. What we have here at RCNT is special.
 
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Do not belittle anyone, ever. I'm only suggesting that poeple should put just a little back from where they have gained so much. Instead I'm hearing that it's time to take some things away from the site instead of placing the site in possition to grow??

What I do know is some of the members cannot afford to give let alone fix their rc's all of the time. Then their are those of us that can and choose not to give.

We can have all of the information and advice in the world but that will not keep this site open ... That is a fact.


You are 100% correct HB.
 
First everyone calm the hell down, this isn't the end of the world so there is no need to get in ANY kind of 'match'


Originally posted by FastEddy
In time this will get worked out. What we need is a bit of collective brainstorming. Its great to say contribute and I highly recommend it, but what about next month and the month after?...
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Originally posted by Nitroaddict
On a side note, while I have donated, along with others, I dont feel that belitting the members who havnt is the right way to go about the problem. This is a free site. Donating is an option, but no one should be made to feel like less of a member if they choose not too.
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These two quotes above are exactly the point I'm trying to make. Donations are a short term solution to a permanent problem. Yes we could all pull together and raise the money needed for a dedicated server next month I'm sure, but then what happens the following month when everything is all ok and no one thinks about donating, then where do you go?

As NA already pointed out, I don't want ANYONE to feel as if they 'have' to donate. Donations are given on freely will, not forced upon. I've already said, this is my hobby I'm not going to make someone else pay for it. Donations are accepted, but are not required nor expected regardless of your post count.

In terms of the gallery - there is NO reason to start deleting images from the gallery. We have 3GB of storage and we're only using just at 1GB of the storage right now. What it looks like we might do is disable the Gallery. When the gallery was disabled just for one day we only used 900MB of bandwidth yesterday, compared to our normal 1.5 - 1.7GB a day. This way everyone can continue to view the site just as before and there will be no problems until later...I hope.

There is no reason you worry about sigs or avatars either, as a large deal of all sigs are hosted on your server and not in the gallery or the RCNT server, so it's not using our bandwidth it's using yours. Right now I only see disabling the Gallery is our only option until further notice, but I'm still looking for ideas - this is not set in stone right now.



-Michael
 
Well if I have offended anyone too bad. I just put my opinion out there no holds barred. I think it's great you take that attitude WoodiE, but it really heats me up when people complain and they are part of the problem. I want to see RCNT get more members without having to sacrafice anything, and on that same note only gain features and new content sections. I have said my peice and I am done here..............
 
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well I for one wouldn't mind mentioning about ponying up some dough. Should it be required no....but if you enjoy the site and have and extra couple of bucks....dont buy that extra pack of smokes...dont buy McDonald's for lunch one day there is so many ways to save......we certainly have the numbers to make this work. Woodie from the start said the forum is for the users....well now its time to pay up suckers LOL
 
I still disagree. I dont think anyone should have to pony up anything unless they want to. Another RC site has over 80000 members and is turning a healthy profit due to advertising. A marketing strategy should be something that RCNT looks into.
 
Shoot, at $6 a pack, I'll cut back and give to my other addiction ... RCNT. I've gotten a lot of advice and help here. Why not? At least I'll be on the right path to quitting. And, it won't be a one time deal, that's for sure.
 
Originally posted by Nitroaddict
I still disagree. I dont think anyone should have to pony up anything unless they want to. Another RC site has over 80000 members and is turning a healthy profit due to advertising. A marketing strategy should be something that RCNT looks into.
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humboldtblazer - I understand the point your trying to make, honestly I do. However I do disagree with it, I don't think making people feel bad or 'forcing' anyone to donate to the site will help at all, only hurt the site in many different ways. When you force or make a member lesser for not donating - then they are no longer donating, but being charged to view the site. I dont know one member that is lesser then the other regardless of post count, time on the forum, usage, or how much they've donated.

If you wanted to call someone a mooch then the best person that would fit the bill right now would be me - this is my hobby something I do for fun just for the heck of. To make someone pay for it is like making your girlfriend or the kid next door to pay for your next R/C because he/she drove your T-Maxx one evening or even two evenings.

I'm not forcing anyone to donate, in fact I really wish this wouldn't turn into a donation problem. As I've said and Eddy made a very good point, this isn't the problem. The problem is not who has donated, who hasn't, who's donated $1 or even $100. The problem is the site is grown much to large MUCH to fast then I can afford at this time, it's no ones fault and no one should be footed the bill.

Once again it's my hobby, no one needs to pay for it and no one is asked to. If it comes down to it I'll disable a few things if needed, just like when you guys can't afford that new buggy you sell off the old T-Maxx. Same thing, that's your hobby, this is mine.


-Michael
 
Ok from a nee guy point of veiw.

Point- Only registered user can browse.

How do you think I found this site? "google it baby" What made me stay? The wealth of knowledge at my finger tips. No registraition. I didn't have to give out my e-mail, I just browsed in learned what I could.

The members and the attitude made me want to post my thanks, That's why I registered, to have my say. I have gone to various R/C sites where I have to register first, never make it past the first page. Why register when I can browse here for free?

What made me stay.
The wealth of pictures and features. Pictures make the post, they keep people interested. Closing the gallery closes off a lot of interest.

What can we do?

Host your own stuff.
If you have the room, host your own sigs. every time someone clicks on apost your in, it has to hit up your sig. Three posts, with three replys. Thats Nine hits, everytime just one person reads your active threads.

Say each thread has 60 views. At Nine hits per view, that's 1620 hits to your sig. That's if your only active in three threads.

How big is your sig? 100kb? that = 162000kb a total of 162meg for your three threads. (is my math right?)

Thats means each sig is responsible for a good part of the bandwidth. So If you can host your sig, do it. If you can't make it as small as possible.

Make pics as small size wise as you can.
When you post your pics to the gallery, I bet the only real concern has been load time. Did you know sizing down your picture by just 33% can cut the size down to almost half?

Don't refresh so much.
Ok I'm sitting here bored, looking at the new posts
(and watchin tv). I have become accustomed to hitting the refresh button for something to do. POP, there's a new thread, lets see what its about. Just by hitting that button less I could save a load of bandwidth.

Sponsors
If you're getting thees kind of hits, some people should be willing to pay well for advertisments on the front page, where you post news. Tell prospective advertisers to do a google search for problems with their RC, and see how many times this site comes up ;). You get a lot of unique hots a day too.

We're not the general R/C crowd. A lot of members here are full blown addicts with good jobs. we blow money like...err spend money on our hobby religiously. If they have a good prouct, advertising here is a good thing.

Fun stuff.
Got any junk laying around? A few battery packs? That old lid you'll never paint? You know the stuff you send to other members as a courtesy for shipping costs Do a Ebay auction of your unwantd stuff, and pay-pal the 2-3 or even $5 profit to RCNT.

Reviews.
I had a hardware review site, at it's prime it was getting 4-5k its a day. The cost is what made me shut it down. One the best hit makers/support deals was products for review. I did a give away and sent them out for free. You could write companys for a review product. Do the review, and then raffle off the product when you're done ;)

Donate.
Well if we like the site and use it enough to justify it (I do), donate what we can when we can. Think about it when you have that extra $5 in pay pal. I'll be sending some in a day or two. $5 isn't much to me, and i really is worth it. How much money have you guys saved me in crap fuel, engine rebuildds, servos, and gas going to the LHS to have the answer my q's.

The fact is Woodie, and his members has made a kick ass site as-is. It draws members like mad. You really shouldn't limit or change something that is as damned succesful as it is. To make the site more successful, I see adding features, and function as the community grows and needs it.

I am assuming Woodie wants to see his site get even bigger, with more members, and more friends. Hows this going to happen with the current state of things. It's just keeeping this within the budget that's the problem.

To sum it up what can we do as members?
Conserve
Make your sigs smaller, or have them hosted.
Make your pictures as small as you can. and keep the detail.
Host your own stuff if you can.
Don't hit refresh so much.
If your good friends use E-mail instead of Pm's
Delete your old pm's and worthless pictures.

Just some ideas. For you all, and something to think a 'bout.

Anyone got any other ideas?

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Woddie, I understand this is your hobby. I also understand that you don't want people to be forced to pay. I agree. Please don;t feel bad for the money you recieve, or for getting donations. Don't feel bad that other people ask either.

It's your hobby, but OUR community. Just like a town, a neighborhood, or anything else. It's only as good as you make it. We don't expect you to pay for our community Woodie. Look at it from our point of veiw as well.
 
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lykan - that post just cost me more bandwidth then this entire thread does. LMAO :D just kidding.

Actually that was an awesome post it not only clears things up for other members but even me as well.

I can assure you - RCNT will NEVER be a site that forces members to register to view any content. I honestly can't stand forums that do that - in fact I post on other forums which cater to other forum admins on how much I can't stand that. To be it's deceiving to the guests. As long as the site is under my control RCNT will never have this in place. Free for all.

I would like to say I am talking to a few members right now on ways to work this out, as well as the staff. I'm sure we'll come up with something, even if it means placing an ad or two more on the site. If closing the gallery does come to effect it would be short term only, only until the site and I can find ways to increase revenue. I've got a few ideas and as I've said before I'm working with others to create more.


-Michael
 
wooohoo, for the first time today i was able to get on the site. woohoo, only took me about 50 tries today.

later
 
If the gallery is the main band width hog Move it to another hosting plan and make it a separate pay to use site.

Or

Get a dedicated server and let the pay gallery support it.

We need to face the truth here. We are going to loose members on this forum FAST if they can't get to the info when they want it. If we need to make a sacrifice I vote for the gallery, after all, its an addition to the forum. The content and availability to it is the main issue.

Donating is fine but as we all know its not necessary nor should it be.

-Ed
 

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