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Expecting too much from a revo?

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I run my revo periodically and it just isn't fun anymore. It's only fun if I'm doing some light bashing at a mild construction site.

I don't know if it's too light or just set up really wrong or what. I have it back to almost stock settings, maybe a touch thicker on oil and stiffer on springs, but it handles like crap compared to my aftershock.

I run at a MX track which I run relatively high speeds with my AS, but my revo just can't hang. It bounces all over, bottoms out all the time (hard). Granted, it's a MX track, so conditions are pretty rough and rutted. But my AS can run there really well with after market tires.

My revo has the following:
Shocks, stock w/40 weight, TiNi shafts, green springs
P2 rockers, middle hole RPM arms
RPM axle carriers
OS 18TM w/Fantom pipe
Hitec 985MG servo's (single steering and T/B)
2.5 Maxx rims w/HPI bones and foams
15T CB/38T spur
FOC
Standard two speed
3.3 chassis and HD engine bay plate

Seems like an ok setup right? I'm not racing or anything, just general bashing. I'm just really disappointed in how poorly it handles in comparison to an aftershock.

The aftershock has RPM arms, stock front shocks, LST2 rear shocks (black springs all around), stock oil in all shocks, HPI standard 14mm rims/Losi Zombie maxx skins.

Even with the stock engine, the AS is a total blast at the MX track due to how well it handles. Gets decent air, rebounds quickly after jumps, handles ruts and bumps with ease. Adding the LRP28 recently just made it more fun. With the revo, I downsized back to a SB just to try and make it handle better (less weight).

Any thoughts? Or is the revo as is as good as it's going to be and I'm expecting too much?
 
Perhaps your suspension is a bit light loaded. Have you placed limiters on the shock shafts to prevent the bottoming out? When you say bounces are you talking like slinky bouncing as in really loose or are you talking about the suspension just not sucking up the rough terrain as it should?
 
Well I dont own a revo but I have an Aftershock only a month old and I dont think it could stay with my savage. But iI'm still learning the Aftershock. My savage is set up. Not an over done mode king just some little things like IRC losi shock conversion dynamite platinum .28 and a custom homemade Rollbar that I think in a wierd and unplaned way is balancing my truck. jumps seem eaiser to land..wheel camber and toe in's are crusial IMO to have set up correctly and I'm learning how the truck works. Weight of motor and torque of motor also plays in on it. the rear tires that is.

So my point is I guess that the revo needs more careful planning..I kinda sit with the truck in front of me with good music playin. and Imagine what its needs are and try to make it happen...if your bottoming out then stiffer springs are in order(Adjustable spring rate is the best....Right.) So oil plays in on it to but Always try the springs first..Idont know if your shock caps can handle thicker oil can they?

The biggest of all is the travel..If you dont have the travel then sorry there isnt much you can do....Hope I made sence and helped you in some way...
 
i think you should put the stiffest springs out there which i think are purple (25lbs) and put shock piston # 3 add 60 wt shock oil and unscrew the nut outside of the shock down as far as it can go. move your pushrods to the first hole in the inside. i think that should help.
 
Hey olds I just went to a mx track the other day with my woodshop teacher to do some riding. I took my revo and played around with it some and I'm starting to see the same thing happen. It just breaks to damn easy, but anyway. The suspension was set up great and thats about it. Purple rear and blue up front with 50w oil top hole in RPMs, it handled 10 foot jumps ok, and a whole lot of rutz and such. Also have you tried the long travle rockers, they might soak up more with added rebound. Its been a while since I have ran them so I forgot how they handled. Hope this helps a little.

Bryson
 
Making it stiffer makes it worse. I had silver springs on it, but I took them off. Before that I was running green with P3 rockers.

With it any stiffer, it just skips around and never feels very solid. It just feels like it's floating.

Maybe I'll run it in the winter... the AS is just too much fun to waste my bashing time with trying to get the revo setup right.

Anyone out there on the fence about getting an aftershock or LST, get one. An aftershock with RPM arms (with lunsford turnbuckles instead of RPM's for the upper arms) and a nice set of zombie maxx's is a ton of fun. Even with the stock engine.
 
Not sure what to tell you other than play with what makes you happy. Eddy always does and needs a towel when he is done.

But on to the Revo...if stiffening it only causes it to skip like a stone, perhaps you need softer springs and stiffer dampener oil. I always put travel limiters on my shock shafts to stop them from bottoming out (nifty name for some fuel tubing on the shock shaft outside of the shock casing...acts like a door stop). Besides, it sounds like you have already made a decision.
 
The LST was the best handling MT I have owned hands down. If it would have stayed in one piece for a full tank I probably would have kept it.
 
Like what sky said, go with thicker oil and softer springs. I think thats your problem.
 
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