I hear so much about those two vehicles, however, i would like something that's 4wd. I figured it would be a little easier to handle. I've always wanted a two speed transmission. Not sure if it makes a difference, but i've just always wanted one. I also want reverse if possible. I know i'm starting to get picky, but if i'm going to spend so much......i want something with everything that i want. The things that i want are steering me toward a mt, but if i can get away with a stadium, i would prefer it. That's why i was looking at the overdrive st. If you guys think i would be better off with a savage of t-maxx let me know. Or if there are any other options, i would like to hear those too. Thanks so far, you've guys have been great.