Denver Colorado Pit Bull ban!

[4u2nv]

I wish theyd outlaw them in Mn. Granted the dogs are cool looking, but face it, the dogs were created to fight. People who say, "Its how there raised" are stupid. Its ANIMAL INSTINCT. So if a person had a tiger as a pet, its going to be 100% nice all the time? Um.. no. The dogs have a lock jaw, and if they didnt have that, then it wouldnt be so bad. I was bit by a rott when I was younger, and that things lucky it died before I was old enough to know better. I would have shot that bitch. All them doggs (The doggs men with small junk have to get to look macho) are worthless.


Not to sound ignorant or a racist or anything, but anyone notice that if a Black guy has a dog its always a pitbull? Why is that? At least here in Mn. every black guy that has a dog, its a pit. And every little wankster kid has one too. I dont get it.. O well.

Another thing, People who have kids should NOT have a pit bull. That makes me sick to my stomach to see that.. I've been around ALOT of pits, and other "fight dogs" and no matter how nice they are, I dont trust em.

Also anyone ever notice like on Judge Judy and poop with Dog attacks, or dog bites, its always pits? "Pits that could never hurt a fly" they claim...lol

 

[nitrost]

you said wankster. anyway that true but down here there is no laws against any dog ou neighber for instance has two full blooded wolves that i take care of he used to have three but one got loose in his yard and somone shot it but those dogs are nice i mean there not even good for a guard dog they would just let the burgler in the house if they got robbed but if you have anything like that they dropp your house insurence. anyway when i was littler i ws bitten bitten by a siberian husky and it was known for being a nice dog but i think dogs just have it in there blood to do what they want like 4u said.

 

[rbmaxxbasher]

you can make a poodle mean. Breed doesn't make a difference.

Pit bulls are only as mean as you make them. Period.

 

[cvec7]

O well, I guess everyone has their opinions....

 

[Tarant]

The Cop's *cough*pigs, in my town are very harsh, they shoot stuff left and right, I think in the last month they have killed 2 people. And one time it was in the news for days, and Rottweiler got hit by a truck and was left on the side of the road for about 1 day, then a cop car shows up and noticed the dog still alive so they bustes out his AR-15,(a AR-15 is a verient to the M-4 what the US soldier is using right know in Iraq. the AR-15 is .223 semi auto and 3000 ft per sec just to give you an idea)well they shoot the dog and leave, well 3 days later a cleaning crew is working on the side of the road and sees the dog but he noticed it was STILL ALIVE. I am not sure how he was finely killed I heard a Ranger came with his 7mm Mouser and killed it, and I heard they took it to the vet and he was euthinized.
But like I said the Cop's here are very trigger happy.
They killed the Pit cause the dog catcher came and put the wire caller around it and it flipped and I am not sure what happend but they ended up shooting it.

 

[woody]

I grew up in the country! Let me tell you: Any dogs that bit somebody was shot on site! We had a dog that was somewhat aggresive when I was growing up! It was a chow mixed breed. It bit my uncle, and my dad shot it dead like 2 minutes later! See, it kind of like a person that cheats, or beats their spouse. Once a beater or cheater always a beater or cheater. I'm a die hard dog lover. I have a pug! Great dogs! I was bit as a child by a dog (German Sheperd) on my ass, to this day I am not afraid of them. But I am leary about other breeds: Rotts, American staffordshire terrier, Pitbull, and a few other breeds. I don't think this is what any city should do, but it keeps the law suits down, and the drama of all the media attention! You can argue this situation till you are blue in tha face, but you are'nt gonna get anywhere. This is a nationwide epidemic with these dogs! Arguing about this situation, would be like arguing with a deaf, blind and dumb person! Kind of pointless! :argue:

Woody

PS: Not trying to offend any handicapped people! This is my legal disclaimer!

 

[JESSE G]

I agree they are know to be very agressive dogs, I personaly wouldnt own one having 4 small kids, I just can believe they are Killing them mean/nice or otherwise. It just dosent seem right to me. I dont know what a better solution but there seem like they could figure out a better way :shrug: ?

cvec7 I live about 2 hrs away from Denver, I just have been seeing this on the news almost daily and was curious what others thought about it.

 

[.21Rc10GT]

you can make a poodle mean. Breed doesn't make a difference.

Pit bulls are only as mean as you make them. Period.

Sorry, but i have to strongly disagree. 4u2nv pretty much wrapped up my thoughts... I would kill em all if i could. They were bread to fight, they will always be mean, no matter how you raise them or train them, it just may not show untill its too late.

My older sister had 2 pit bulls. An electrician was working in the other room and walked into the room it was in. The dog was fully aware he was there for the past 2 hours, and met him at the door. The dog was really nice in the past. But this time, the dog ran and jumped right for the throat. Fortunatly, the person stuck his hand in the way just in time, and saved his own life. The dog tore his hand up really nicely, but he lived. The dogs did not.

This is only one of however many thousands there are out there. People, just face it, they need to die! :arrr:

 

[retarded pilot]

This is only one of however many thousands there are out there. People, just face it, they need to die! :arrr:

this is an ignorant statment

anyone try & kill my pit mix they will find the meaning of "forget the dog beware of owner" because they will get a little extra iron in there diet

I've taken my pit to the dog park many times when i lived in california & she been around more people than i can count & never had a problem with her now shes gettin old & dont think she will be around much longer

there is no "breed" of dog that i fear except maybe chows ...it IS all in how there raised ....
what if i said when i watch the news i see a lot of punk teenagers shooting & stabing inocent people nearly everyday should all teenagers be locked away?

 

[rocknbil]

YES! Until they are like 30 or something! Hallelujah, Amen, make it so number one!

Ex in-law had a pit, was the gentlest animal I've ever met, played with my daughter when she was two. She'd try to ride her back, everything . . . . never even a growl.

Like most here, I agree it's the owners, most people don't get a pit because they think they look "cool." Be honest. You get them because of their potential for being bad ass in a fight or attack. And a lot of people train them that way.

Banning the dogs from the city is certainly not the right approach.

BTW for the poodle comments, I believe it's the poodles that are the dog most likely to bite, with Retrievers being the least likely.

 

[cvec7]

Sorry, but i have to strongly disagree. 4u2nv pretty much wrapped up my thoughts... I would kill em all if i could. They were bread to fight, they will always be mean, no matter how you raise them or train them, it just may not show untill its too late. ...

I must agree w/ you there as well. Have you forgotten about "Domestication"? We've done it millions of times. We've domesticated cats. (Wild cats are very crazy mofos) We've domesticated hundreds of animals naturally born to kill. All dogs were once born to kill, but look at the thousands that don't. And, have you forgotten then WE were once savage animals? Yet, we've seen to overcome that instinct. Just because dogs are not as smart as us and have no where near the same mental processes, doesn't mean that they can't be raised to overcome these instincts...

- isn't that just about the stupidest thing you've ever heard? But, you get my point tho...


Now, ALL I'm saying, and ALL I'm saying is that what I think they have done was too extreme. And that yes these animals can be breed properly.

w/ some intervention from the local authorities. I think they should've tried a new breeding program for these animals, allow only a few select breeders to breed these dogs, Monitor the breeders on a regular basis, to make sure they are breeding them to be nice dogs, allow people to only get pits from these selected breeders, then in 10 years time, see if the attacks have decreased enough. Then decide on a possible ban. Now, to those of you saying, "wtf? ur sayin we shud give these animals another 10 yrs to kill my children!" or w/e, all I'm offering is a possible solution that Denver could've taken instead. So don't yell at me.

 

[Greyryder]

All breeds have personality traits that they tend towards. Pit Bulls tend to be friendly towards people, with a nack for knowing exactly when they need to protect their owners, or their owner's property.

Pit Bulls, by nature, are not mean dogs. The only ones born mean are the ones that have been bred for fighting for the last five generations. I really wonder if you can even accurately call those Pit Bulls anymore. Dobermans, and Rottwiellers have had the same misconception about their breeds, becasue in the past, they were the breeds that were favored for illegal dog fighting. One of the seetest dogs I ever met, was a rott that my uncle used to have. She wanted nothing more than to be petted by whoever was around, even she didn't know the person.

The big problem in all of this is that the media likese to cry "Pit Bull" whenever there's a dog attack, no matter what breed was actually involved in the attack.

We had a Golden Retriever that turned out to have a rare aggresion disorder, and we had to have him put down. I still cry for that dog. I can't stand the thought of healthy, well adjusted dogs being put to sleep. To me it's animal cruelty, and any vet that has anything to do with it, should be ashamed of themselves.

This whole thing has me thinking of a news story I read a while back. A woman was being attacked in her own yard by a red Chow that was running loose. She was saved when two Pit Bulls heard the noise, jumped a fence, and ran off the Chow. The Pits didn't know the woman, either.

I hope to hell the Denver Pit owners get together, and sue the city counsel into oblivion.

 

[4u2nv]

you can make a poodle mean. Breed doesn't make a difference.

Pit bulls are only as mean as you make them. Period.

So a lion that is bread in Captivity is only as mean as they make it? Its not aggressive as soon as it comes out of the womb? Pits have the same nature. Granted there are people who have pits that are friendly, but only because of the situations there in. They arent put in the situations to be aggresive, but a pit is going to be ALOT short fused then lets say a lab, because they were created for protection and fighting. Just look at the statistics. ANyone who says it depends on how there raised isnt using there head. How many dogs are abused these days? But yet Pits always seem to come back up ?

 

[Northlander]

I would have to agree with the ban on pit bulls. After reading all of the responses I still disagree with the how they were raised ideology. When was the last time you ever heard of a golden retriever, lab, chihuahua, etc. mauling anyone to death? Some dogs are just not worth taking that chance over. Although not dogs, a fine example is Seigfried and Roy's tigers, animals that had been worked with for years but yet still ended up in attack mode. Anytime you read a story that has someone who has a pit or other "attack" dogs in the home with children and they end up getting attacked, the owners should be shot for being stupid. Just my .02

 

[greenwing7]

you can make a poodle mean. Breed doesn't make a difference.

Pit bulls are only as mean as you make them. Period.

and labs aren't bred to retrieve :shrug:


although I agree with the fact that pit bull agressiveness is getting way out of hand, this was definetly the wrong way to go about it and killing these dogs was a bad thing too because the majority were probably friendly dogs.

 

[Plaidfish]

My uncle bred dogs for over 20 years when I was growing up...all kinds, Bavarian Shepards/ Pits / Rotts / Chihuahuas/ labs/jack russels & cocker spaniels....ALL DOGS yes ALL dogs want one thing....to know whos in charge....some have stronger will sthan others and if you are dealing w/ a dog larger than you can handle if need be then you shouldn't have one....plain and simple...any dog needs to have or be an alpha.....if you can't show it you are the alpha then you can't control it no matter what breed it is...pit-bulls are actually one of the smartest breeds around...easily trained and very protective....if they feel threatened they attack....just like people do.....some people will let poop slide as some dogs will too.....here's an example of how assinine it is to ban any specific breed of dog based the "bred to fight theory"....my friend Lem was raised in tailand...his family is very poor...he lived in crap conditions and was "bred" to be a prize fighter same as his brother and his father and every male in his family......now if he is attacked or feels threatened and uses his "instincts" or anything he learned growing up and hurts someone do we go and kill him??? No he gets punished....I think that in itself is pretty stupid as well....because he was "bred" (used term for lack of better word) and trained for fighting and he was put in a situation where the other person didn't think they would get flattened, Now Lem would be the one in trouble...should we kill everyone that has the ability to defend themselves????....same thing w/ these dogs.....when they are threatened they will react the way they have been raised.....if they have ever been the alpha in the family (at least in their mind) they may view a minor infraction on their space as a threat and react accordingly.....Who's the alpha is all they care about...even if it's not them.....anyone who gets a dog needs to seriously look at what position they hold to that dog....if it misbehaves yes knock his ass down...that is what they understand....don't maim the dog but you NEED to be able to control it or you are not it's master, as far as he is concerned, He is your's.....the theory of blaming the dog or the breeding is just foolish.....placing blame on something (anything) seems to be the American Way.....dogs have personalities and a sense of self just as much as people do.....anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain ignorant.....

 

[RushRC]

Here is my take/opinion

Dog owners, no matter what the breed, take a risk just by owning a dog. Dogs attack (defend/protect/bite or whatever you want to call it) for many different reasons. Could be sick, hungry, hot, protecting, guarding, aggressive, mean, didnt like the way you smell or what ever. All breeds have teeth and can use them - some get more press due to their breed and the way in which they attack. Same is true for shark attacks. You have a better chance of getting struck by lighting then being bitten by a shark but die to the graphic nature of the shark attack it makes a better story then the lightning strike. Some dogs were or are still breed for certain traits - pitbulls, bull dogs, bullmastiffs and some others are bait dogs originally breed to keep the Bull busy or to bite the nose of a Bull and hold on to it. I like the looks of the pit but would never own one because I have a kid and its not worth it. I had a Boxer and a Bullmastiff - had to have the Boxer put down becasue of cancer and then the Bullmastiff became aggressive to my daugther. I came out of the shower and saw my little 3yr old girl bleeding from a cut on her eyebrow. The dog is gone - dont know what happened but I am not willing to risk it. As I said all dogs can attack people no matter the breed some just do it a bit different some bite and hang on while others bite many times - either way probably hurts like hell

That video of the crazy lady and her vagina and labrador penis bitting dog is a perfect example lol

 

[cvec7]

....Same is true for shark attacks. You have a better chance of getting struck by lighting then being bitten by a shark ....

Ahh...been watching a little shark week have we?

....That video of the crazy lady and her vagina and labrador penis bitting dog is a perfect example lol

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[.21Rc10GT]

That video of the crazy lady and her vagina and labrador penis bitting dog is a perfect example lol

You have to bring this up?!? LOL!!! :hammer:

 

[4u2nv]

and labs aren't bred to retrieve :shrug:


although I agree with the fact that pit bull agressiveness is getting way out of hand, this was definetly the wrong way to go about it and killing these dogs was a bad thing too because the majority were probably friendly dogs.

A lab has retrieving in its blood, and it comes natural to them. Just like pits have aggression in there blood. It comes natural to them, no matter HOW you train them or treat them. You can tone it down, but it will always be there..