Damn u HPIGuy

[bgbdwlf2500]

So after seeing your quad copter video i couldnt resist at the store anymore and bought a Blade Scout. Then i got used to the coaxial style and 2 days later bought the Blade 120 SR. Definately a learning curve to the 120 if youve never flown. I was having a really hard time with the 120 and then thought something isnt right so i looked at some vids and realized it definately wasn't right. THought it was the lipo to start with so got another and it wasn't the issue. It turned out to be a bad motor from the factory. Now I'm hovering inside which i couldnt do before. The lhs made it right so i can't complain.

Question about the quad though. Is it a "beginner" heli or is some experience needed?

 

[HPIguy]

(wrings hands while doing muaa ha ha laugh)

Congrats man, sounds like you really took to it quickly.The MQX quad is very neutrally stable with the AS3X system on board. What that means is that once you set the heli (or quad in this case) into an attitude, it will simply hold that attitude until you correct for it yourself. It doesn't have the self correcting nature of the 45* flybar of the MSR and SR 120. And when you send it in a direction, it will hold that heading until you tell it not to, you have to cancel / correct each movement. The quad flies more like a flybarless collective pitch heli than anything else really, a lot of that due again to the AS3X system that is also used in the MCPX and now the Blade 450X (it's just rebadged Beast X flybarless tech). And with 4 motors on board, it's very fast and responsive when you send off in any direction as well, it's gotten away from me a few times in the house.

Personally, my advice having completely quit on helis once before. Buy a good TX instead, like a DX6i so that you have full control over the heli you have now. That way, you can tone it down using dual rates and expo when you start flying circuits, etc. Then as you progress, you can move the swash links to the longer ball studs, turn up the dual rates in the TX and really let it rip outdoors. Plus, from here on then you can just buy the bind n fly stuff. The SR 120 is a very durable little bird, don't be scared to crash it outdoors once you get to that point. I've drove the one I had in from 30 feet up, straightened the blades and went again. It's a fantastic heli for it's intended purpose IMHO, that's why I owned one, and why I've since passed it along to a friend wanting to learn without breaking the bank.

Let me know if there's anything I can help with. I always enjoy having other rotorheads around.

 

[bgbdwlf2500]

I was mainly asking about the quad cuz my roommate wants one of those.

So far the 120 has been tough as it does get away from me time to time. I did have it outside but the wind even tho slight is way too much for me to control. I can hover ok, not perfect as it wont sit completely still. I do ok looking at it from the back but if i try to spin it around I'm a little bassackwards. So far its been fun, my living room is a little small and so far my fish are only slightly pissed at me since I've only bounced it off of each tank once. Really the only issue is me, i have a hard time with the dual controls on one stick and i havent been flying as long as I've been driving to not have to think about what does what. I can put the slash up on 2 wheels at 60mph and have no thought as to what direction to go to set it back down.. the heli, not so much...

 

[HPIguy]

Yep, helis are the hardest hobby I've ever taken up, and I've had quite a few hobbies in my years. They require commitment and regular stick time (even if it's on a sim or indoors) to develop that muscle memory to know which way is which in all orientations without having to think ahead.

I took a stab at helis back in 2004 or so, and gave up pretty quickly, partly because I hadn't matured enough and just didn't have the patience for it. Got into it again a couple of years ago when the little MSR came out, and followed the recommended progression and I'm totally hooked now, they're my favorite aspect of all things RC. I'd rather fly than do almost anything else nowadays. You'll see as you progress, you'll have these epiphany moments where something just clicks, and it's one of the best feelings ever to know you have that move on lock without having to think about it. I'm still very much in the learning stage myself, but with helis, I think it's that way your whole life. There's always something else you can learn if you push yourself to progress. I love the challenge of them!

 

[bgbdwlf2500]

ya I'm not sure what ill do from here. I'm enjoying the 120 now that i have some control over it. the quicker i learn something the more i enjoy it and the faster ill progress. I have a feeling if i think I'm gonna stick with it the 450 will be the next one. That way i have a heli capable of 3d if i ever decide to go that route. I know that takes a lot of practice and definately not having to think about ANYTHING when it comes to flying. The videos of people flying 3d that know what theyre doing blows my mind. the one for the 450 and the mcpx 2 i think it is even on blades site is mind blowing...

 

[Mn Monster]

i'm just getting into heli's and i can't wait to hone my skills on these micro's before i step up to a bigger bird. for now i love my MCX, and one day i will get the hang of my xpedia. that single blade bird is a handful in my house, and with snow on the ground, not ready to put it in a snow bank. i'm looking forward to spring so i can fly outside! someday i'll make the jump to a bigger bird, but for now i'm having a blast !

 

[HPIguy]

I would highly recommend an MCP X and a good sim before a 450, but that's up to you. Reason being, one good crash on a 450 can easily be over $100. I had a tip over just as my skids got light taking off, cost me $75. The MCP X when flown over grass can usually just be picked up and flown again, and it can do basic aerobatics like flips, rolls, loops etc. It can fly in a surprising amount of wind too. I love my MCP X, and my flying wouldn't be where it is without it. I always fly it before flying the 450, to get my thumb to brain circuitry warmed up.

 

[bgbdwlf2500]

Noted will keep that in mind. Still dont have a big enough living room. Any breeze is still to much for me right now