Centrifugal or not, that is the question.

[lykan]

When I was about 5, my father took the time to explain the "centrifical force" We went and bought a gyroscope. He not only showed me how CF acts, but how it keeps things on a vertical plane if centered on the axis. (we balanced it on a string)

If he hadn't consiodered centrifical force seperate from inertia, I would still not understand the uses of centrifical force (such as autopilot, clutches, etc)

Perhaps Centrifcal force is non exsistant, and is only an effect of inertia, I don't know.

Describing it as "centrifical force" puts it into laymans terms. starting at the age of 5, I had firm grasp on how it worked. I have used that as a tool to understand the mechanics of how things work since then. (clutches, autopilot, stabilizers).

It gives the non-physics major a grasp on mecahnics that's quick and easy to understand.

I completely understand where you are coming from. A solid mass (like a grinding wheel) seems to exhibit centrifugal force.

A control line plane, on the other hand flys around you in circles, and the tension on the line appears to come from inertia.

 

[El Pirata]

You can do the same with a bike wheel for half the price...

 

[SkyMaxx]

lykan, I take it from your use of quotes and spelling change for Centrifugal Force that you think it has been misspelled. If so, check your dictionary again. The spelling "centrifical" is a common mis-spelling and you can actually get hits on a search engine using that spelling...BUT the results will usually end up with the proper spelling of the term (Centrifugal). Just some food for thought.

 

[bill61]

Either way the thingy spins and the thingybobs grab the bell and the buggy goes frontways.

 

[lykan]

Nope the quotes were because it was what I call an unknown I have no idea how to spell it.

Just something I do, I probably spelled it differently three or more times in the post lol

Example; I went to the store and picked up some "wrenches", meaning not specific.

Example; I wasn't "drunk" I was just really tired.

Centrifugal vs Inertia. I wasn't sure if they were one and the same. I didn't want to label something that wasn't.. so I called it a ?? in my mind. maybe I should have put ?centrifugal/inertia?

 

[SkyMaxx]

LOL...no sweat. Now I know one of your personality "styles". Will make reading your posts a little more easy to understand/interpret.

 

[lykan]

You know, I have a hard time with getting my meaning across in text. I am a person who uses examples, metaphors, and gestures to convey meaning.


I have been mistaken more than once for being agressive, or having a know it all attitude, which I try to be as far away from as possible.

I tend to over explain in text, so people don't get the wrong "feeling" about what I'm trying to say. (there's those damned quotes again)

 

[cbreaker]

I "know" what you mean by "that." =)

After reading some materials on the subject of Centrifugal Force, I believe that it is simply inertia caused by a spinning motions. But like someone said above, that doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a name!

 

[Waste Land]

Originally posted by SkyMaxx
I have a Bachelor's in Aerospace Engineering, and like you I am not going to argue the point. I'll see if I can dig up a force diagram for you. BTW, I was not saying that you are right or wrong. Just saying that there are a couple of schools of thought on the topic of Centrifugal Force (the one that says it is a force and the one that says it isn't). I don't fall into either category as it doesn't matter. Whatever you call it, the acceleration and mass thing can be explained mathematically and it can be described in a force diagram (regardless of the labels)

Think your better than me SKy? I've got a B in 10th grade phsyics last year. Oh yeha and was moved into advanced math in in 8th grade. Think your Mr Top Gun around RCNT, think again, I use to play Turn and burn no fly zone quite a bit in my SNES days. Just kidding man. Does it really take all that to be a pilot.

 

[GilBeQuick]

Yes sir. The military won't take any Joe Shmoe as a pilot these days. A college degree is a requirement.

 

[SkyMaxx]

Originally posted by Waste Land
Does it really take all that to be a pilot.

It does take a college degree. I just happened to decide to be a rocket scientist.

 

[El Pirata]

Now I know what's wrong with you...

 

[cbreaker]

God.. pretty soon you'll need a college degree just to work at 7-11.

Actually from what I've heard from my friend who's in the air force, to be a pilot of those fighter jets you not only need a college degree, but you need to be a certian height and weight, with perfect 20/20 vision.

Fortunately for the air force, everyone wants to be a pilot so there's plenty of people to fill those positions.

 

[gutterboy]

After reading all those post, you guys make me feel really f ing stupid. I did graduate from high school though, barely.

 

[El Pirata]

Originally posted by cbreaker
but you need to be a certian height and weight, with perfect 20/20 vision.

This is true. You can't be too tall or to short to be able to reach everything or to be able to fit into the cockpit. It's the same with tankers too.

 

[gutterboy]

My boss is a full blown curnel, you get my drift, and he is retired from the Marines. He flew the jet fighters when he was in. I dont know if you guys heard about the plane that crashed into the gondola and killed the people in another country, his son was in that plane. He got off because he wasn't flying it, know he is part of the Blue Angels. His name is Chandler Seagraves.