You can get the violator BIN including shipping for cheaper, but i have the new X-terminator pro... IT IS SOOO FRICKEN STRONG. I brought it to a new track, (this was my first race :smoke: ) so I crashed and crashed, off 5' jumps, and stuff, NOTHING HAPPENED!!!! I probably gave it about 3-4 hours of beating. still, great condition! I highly recommend the "new" X-terminator pro. I dont know about the rtr, or the deluxe though. maybe the deluxe might be a better buy since its rtr and comes with a 24.7.