Well i finally bit the bullet and took out 2 of my rigs today and there was a metric Sh*t ton of snow out there and on the street it was hard packed snow so i said "wtf i'll go out and bash a little bit" and i tell you what if you think that the mini- e-revo is a handful when its dry out. . .try it in the snow, i also took my nitro 4wd buggy out too but that wasn't as fun as the merv, you hit the throttle and all 4 tires spin a roost of snow up and its instantly a little mini snowball. the buggy was about the same story but i was concerned about it being that is nitro powered so i didn't run too much, only 2 tanks just to see what it was like and not only that i don't believe my servos are waterproof. But thats all i gotta say so. . .see ya