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Well I just recently bought my Nitro TC3 Plus well I dont know what it is me and my dad worked with it for about 30 minutes tryin to keep it going. Well I did everything charged the Glow Ignighter and set everything to what the intructions said as for as the engine. Well I dont know what it is I do the start thing where you put you finger over the muffler and pull to let fuel into the engine. And then put the GI on and pull it starts but then stays on for like 2-5 seconds and then cuts off. I dont know what it is but these is what i notice. 1 the fuel in the line doesn't seem to be flowing at all. 2 My dad says theres air in the lines(bubbles) which I dont know if it is a good thing either.

Any tips and help is appreciated thanks.

Ill be takin it in tomm morning to my local Hobby shop. But if its somethin I can fix Ill do it.
 
Have you verified the engine settings? Have you looked that carb opening? It should stay open to 1mm when the brakes are applied and at normal idle.

As far as "priming" the engine with plugging the stinger and pulling the pullstart to get fuel to the carb. Just do it till it reaches the carb.

I think youare going through a "rich" break in stage right now so having the engine die on you will be normal. If you follow the settings and break in instructions it should run great. The RTR NTC3 are still fast out of the box.
 
ok phew if its just normal for the break in that take a load off my chest now lol. Ill go check the carb opening to make sure. thanks.

well I doubled checked everything and all of it seems to be correct even had my dad check the measurements as well and he says its all correct. But ya Ill just take to the hobby shop where i got it from and have them show me some stuff to make sure i didnt break anything as well which I dont think I did.

....I dont know if this is a stupid question or not but does the motor need to be lubricated? I've seen "After burn Oil Lubricant" is that needed?
 
TC, here's something I posted in another thread that may help:

The LSN controls fuel flow from idle to mid-open throttle, say, dead stop to half throttle.

The HSN handles mid-throttle to WOT.

The worst thing you can do, both for your sanity and for the life of your engine, is try to tune both needles at the same time! You're asking for problems.

Best thing you can do right now, is, set your needles back to factory. Once you've done that, start tuning your HSN first (and ONLY your HSN right now.) You're looking for a temperature in the 220-230 range, a good smoke trail and your rig running nice and smooth from mid throttle to WOT. Once you've gotten to this point, and ONLY when you've gotten to this point, you can start tuning the LSN.

The LSN will control the 'jump' you refer to. Goal is to be able to nail the throttle and your rig get up and go! Once you've tuned the HSN, start dialing in the LSN clockwise in 1/8th increments until you reach the preformance you are looking for. If you nail the throttle and it gurgles and sputters, turn it clockwise. If you nail it and it flames out suddenly, you are too lean, turn it counter-clockwise. Once you have it to where you think it should be, give it the pinch test. It's really easy, pinch the fuel line to the carb and starting counting "one, one-thousand, two, one-thousand..." until it shuts down. If you got anywhere from 3-5 seconds, your LSN is dialed in. If it cuts off before 3, you may be a bit too lean, still. Anything over 5 and you may be a bit too rich. It may not be scientific, but you'll see a lot of folks here swear by it!

The crucial thing to keep in mind throughout all of this is.....PATIENCE! You keep jacking with the needles every 10 seconds you'll go crazy and be nothing but pissed off! Like Sweetdiesel said, give yourself 30-45 seconds of run time in between adjustments. That does not mean 30-45 seconds of idle time! You have to run it! I usually count 8 to 10 passes of about 150 feet before I bring it in to adjust and I work to go through the entire throttle power band.

Don't get too wrapped up on molecules being formed and where they go. Just take it one step at a time. Once you get it down, it'll become second nature, but you have to be patient and learn to understand what the mill is telling you it's doing. You just have to learn its language!

Have fun with it! Keep posting with any problems and don't forget to use the search function. I think if you search 'tuning' in the power plants forum, there is a great article on how to tune. I'll try looking as well and if I find the link, I'll post it here.


Also, it will help to take a few minutes and look over this thread as well: https://www.rcnitrotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7217

Lots of great information to help get you started. Jon2's got you on the right path, so just take your time and be patient. As to your particular problem, you MAY be a tad too rich on your high speed needle. You might want to try turning it about an 1/8th of a tick clockwise. You might want to also check your fuel lines for airleaks as well.

Enjoy it and have fun!
 
TC3 you might also leave GI on just a tad longer..say around 20 sec just to get the engine warmed up a little. You don't want to leave it on any longer than that, it will start to take the juice from the GI
 
thanks for the info, The car is up and running and ill be posting pics of it. Thanks again.
 
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