Serious Shock setup dilemma

[Shogun1122]

Ok, so I'm ready to do a serious up grade on the savage suspension. I have done a lot of reasearch on this site and on many others. I have narrowed down to two different setups and i want your guys opnions on them. The first is the setup that skymaxx has (sorry for biteing your style skymaxx, but its a great idea). It is the nova shock towers, new era upper arms, and buggy shocks. The other way i am thinking of going is the NEW MSR5 piggybacks from integy. These are not the old MSR4 shocks.

They new Msr5 are supposed to be super duty (3.6mm shaft) and i get 8 for $150. The cheapest i can do the buggy setup for is like $200 (only 4 shocks). I guess what i really want to know is it worth the dough to go with the buggys. It will be adding many new components that will add a lot of weight to an already heavy savage.

P.S. Could i go with 8 buggy shocks, would it be kick ass or just over the top. And what do you think of Unlimited Engineerings RacerX shocks.

Thanks for your help

 

[SkyMaxx]

The additional weight is worth it and 8 buggy shocks is way overkill, not to mention a bit of a tight fit for the extra four shocks.

As for the style, it might be that I am one of the first on this site to actually use that set up, but the style is far from soley mine. Afterall, New Era came up with the design for the upper a-arm so someone before me had to think it up.

I think the real question is what do you want in your suspension? If you want a very beefy set up, the buggy shocks are the way to go. If you want to stick with the stock set up and just upgrade the shocks, then opt for the piggyback set up. Either way, I think you will be happy.

The way I drive, the beefy set up is a must...and any upgraded engine will solve any additional weight you add.

 

[Shogun1122]

Well i have already upgraded to the Wasp .26, and now i want the suspention to match it. I want something that is overkill. I want my savage to be able to take landings from obscene heights, and not bend and break. What buggy shocks should i use?

Do you think that it is possible to fit 8 buggy shocks? I was thinking maybe offset. You know, one shock mounted on the furthest eyelet of the a arm and one on the inner most? I bash pretty hard and i want something thats gonna last. Sorry aobut all the questions. I just want to do it right the first time.

I have one last concern, can the new era arms stand up to the punishment and not bend. It seems like they would have a lot of stress put on them.

 

[SkyMaxx]

So far my rig has run some pretty tough terrain, jumps, and bashing. The a-arms are still straight, and the four shocks are more than enough.

If you want to waste the extra $100 on four more buggy shocks, then go for it. I still recommend against it, but the choice is up to you.

As for fitting them, on the truck...I doubt it can be done easily. Perhaps the Nova towers can offer better chassis, radio box, engine and fuel tank clearance...but as it is I have my front shocks on the front side of the my New Era tower and the rear shocks on the back side of the tower. I tried to put in an extra set of four shocks on the inside corners and found they ended up limiting suspension travel as they hit the TVPs, radio box, engine, exhaust manifold and sundry other snug areas.

Trust me when I say that four 1/8 scale buggy shocks are more than sufficient to the task. Whether or not they will survive a fall from a two story building is up for debate, but I am not looking to test them in that fashion. I'll bash the snot out of my Savage, but I will not go out of my way to try and break the thing.

You asked about offset set ups. I do not recommend this, because it screws with your suspension tuning and puts uneven strain on the components. As mentioned above, it is your ride and your money...you can do what you wish. I can only recommend against certain things that I know to be unsound from an engineering standpoint.