Savage Wont Stay On All 4 Wheels

[tomhazard]

hi. my savage just wheelies and flips itself. I'm only using my savage on the road at the moment but everytime i hit half throttle it just wheelies and flips. and if i hit brakes it front flips and turning corners it just rolls. my cuz got like a few of the rolls it did on camera while we were using the cars on saturday ill try get them on youtube and post vid. there only small lowspeed rolls. What can i do to stop it doing wheelies? there is no way i can get full throttle out of this thing because if you really slowly increase throttle its out of range before you can get it to full. Is there a safe way to lower these things? Make it truggy-ish? i dont have to worrie too much about it bottoming out on the shocks as its only used on a flat road. I just want it not to wheelie as much and to turn corners. I might sell it and get something different if not as i can't handle it at all.
Cheers

 

[beason]

the stock savage comes with shock spacers on the shock body, take those off and it should help a little. the savage is made for offroad dirt and sliding around. it is top heavy though.

you can get softer springs but it will body roll more.

you can mod it to sit lower by getting different towers and shocks, or you can put limiters in the shocks.

 

[theamazingrevo]

you could try a wheeli bar. most hobby stores should stock them. as far as the brakes try adjusting the brake bias. so you have less brake. I'm no expert but thats wat i would try first.

 

[ohmygahitscoby]

You can lower the gear number on the spur and raise the teeth on the CB. That should provide more speed and less torque.

 

[Gordz]

lucky bastard! i can't get mine to wheelie!

 

[Racer 1966]

You can always detune it a bit to stop the wheelies. The rolling,well the only other suggestion I can give is wider wheels and tires and more offset.

 

[Scrogg]

A set of offset wheels and put the green HPI shock springs on all 8 shocks. It will sit lower and handle much better. Softer suspension settings cut down on wheelies.
You can also install a piece of fuel tubing inside the shocks on the shaft below the pistons. It shortens the shocks which in turn cuts down on body roll. 1/4" to 3/8" of fuel tubing is a good starting point. 35 wt. shock oil is good for on-road.

 

[Zachary]

I have a savage 25 with a 32 in it and with the stock chassis it flips like crazy. What i would recommend the most if you DONT want wheelies at all, get an extended chassis or tvp's or what ever they're called. Stopped all the whellies and makes it a little more controllable. Or you could change your stock gearing. either go less teeth on your spur gear or more teeth on you CB or both. more high end and less bottom end.

 

[tomhazard]

I think the Force 36 engine is a little too powerful for it. It has a wheelie bar. it has xtreme LCG carbon fiber TVP's so thats a little lower centre of gravity. wheels are Pro-Line Wabash 40 with Pro-Line 40 Series tyres(Bow-Tie PRO111300) so there quite wide. Ill upload a vid to youtube. it will be a bad video because my cousin can't use a camcorder and he only got a few seconds footage of my car.

ok heres video. I'm still running the engine in so i cannot use full throttle yet. watch at about 28 seconds, thats about half throttle.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGGL7B8Vu0"]Video Here[/ame]

 

[Scrogg]

What gearing are you using? A .36 engines needs around 18/47 to 19/47 to take advantage of all the torque it makes.
The LCG chassis helps but an extended LCG chassis would be a big improvement. I recommend the Innovative Racing 1" rear, 6mm front extended LCG chassis. It really puts the power to the ground. The extra length adds stability.

 

[Parputt537]

ok heres video. I'm still running the engine in so i cannot use full throttle yet. watch at about 28 seconds, thats about half throttle.
Video Here

What do you expect, you are running it on the street. Just need to learn a little throttle control. As for the brakes, just loosen the linkage a bit.

 

[muratti]

Wheelies and remedy

Just got my Savage XL yesterday. I am doing smooth running to break in as good as possible. I plan on using up a full gallon before I ever push her.

I hit bursts of 100% throttle every now and then though. She tends on lifting off her nose right away even during moderate speeds. So I got a set of HPI Phaltline low profile chevron tread road tyres and installed a wheelie bar with the big wheel.

She now lifts off much less (still does but not as much as before) and the wheelie bar ensures I don't end her up on her top.

She corners like a dream too, just lie on rails !!

Laters !
MS

 

[Brushlessboy]

All of the above but I'll give you a little tip..
When you turn a M/T do it under power. A rolling, braking M/T is very unstable. Turn it a little and give her some power, she'll squat, lift the front inside, and pull away.........

 

[beason]

from the looks of your video, your suspension is all the way up and very stiff. those together will make it roll over if you just look at it funny.

if you can find them the triple rate springs are nice, there are a bit shorter then stock to.

 

[tomhazard]

Is there any tutorials on lowering the savage? Like the fuel tube in the shocks and stuff.

 

[Scrogg]

It's not hard.
Take the shocks off the truck, remove the springs and rod ends and the rubber bump stops that are on the shock shafts. When removing the rod ends i use a set of electrical crimping pliers to hold the shock shaft.
Cut 8 identical lengths of fuel tubing no longer than 1/2". 1/2" will be a good starting point though for what you are doing.
Remove the shock caps, drain the oil.
Slide the shock shaft out of the shock body.
Slide the piece of fuel tubing over the shock shaft, push it all the way up to the shock piston.
Reassemble the shocks and fill them with 35 wt. oil.