Cmon MSLY, don't you recognize the "don't confuse me with facts my minds already made up" syndrome?. I hate crotch rockets, these guys think they are the shiznit, ripping through traffic, holding up traffic to let the cars in front of them get a head start, so the can wheelie down the street. I too will laugh my ass off when I get to witness one of them eat it, only because they deserve to. Your not going to get an answer from Arrow, how could a ricer possibly give credit where credit is due, it's just because it is not a ricer. Yeah, I see how the crotch rockets, where you almost have to lay down across the frame and tank are so much more comfortable to cruise around town are as opposed to a nice ass, one of a kind cruiser. Which brings up another point, damn near every crotch rocket looks exactly like the next one, no originality whatsoever. Nearly every cruiser has its own look and personality. Anyway back to the subject, I agree, the guys bikes are damn sweet!