Pennsylvania Omish School Shooting :( :( :(

[woodie1976]

hey ya all i didnt know if anyone has seen anything about this yet or not. its all over the news here in iowa and i found it on the front page of cnn.com and on other news site.

isnt it horrafying what this world is coming too. kinda makes me scared to send my kids to school knowing that someone walked in to a omish school and opened fire.

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[WoodiE]

I seen that on the news during lunch as well. Does anyone know why this happened? An Omish school is the last place I would have thought this stuff would have happened.



-Michael

 

[woodie1976]

donno... i honestly dont know why someone would do sutch a thing. discusting in its own words. they said he let all the boys go and 3 of the older woman one was carrying a baby. they said he was prepaired to do this too with wood for blocking doors, guns, rope, wire ties and flex cuffs. they said he called his wife and told her he wouldnt be home and left suicide notes for all his kids. that all happened after he droped his kids off at school.

more than likley they will be lettin more know as the day goes on. i hear anything else i will let ya all know

 

[Monkey Wrench]

It is unfortunate that this individual chose to do this in an Amish school, of all places. I lived in Hershey, PA for just over a year and it is right in Amish country. Just north of Cincinnati is another Amish enclave and while I can never understand how you can live without modern conveniences like electricity and indoor plumbing, I do know that the Amish I have personally spoken with and bought from are probably the hardest working, most humble and peaceful people I've been exposed to.

From what I understand, the shooter was not Amish and he did not know the victims. It just so happened that this school was the closest to his residence and apparently this is in retaliation for something 20 years ago.

The world is a crazy, mixed up place for sure. Best thing you can do is hug your kids, protect them as best you can and hope for the best.

 

[supersavage]

The world is a crazy, mixed up place for sure. Best thing you can do is hug your kids, protect them as best you can and hope for the best.

Ditto... Hopefully this world will run out of dillholes someday!

 

[jetmechG550]

Don't get me wrong by what I am about to say and it by no means justifies or makes any attempt to justify what happened but the Amish community is a actually a pretty dark culture. They treat their own differently as then what appears to those on the outside. They can be very cruel people towards their own, all while coming off as humble and innocent cause they don't have a car or elecricity or other modern conveniences. That being said, some may not know if this guy was once part of the community, went of on his Romspringa (SP) and decided to stay gone and one day come back to avenge something that happened to him as a child. This world is full of wacko's for sure!

 

[scottm]

Its sick. He's a cowardly piece of poop. Maybe some day there will be a genetic test to identify scumbags like that. Until then, get ready for a new wave of anti gun crap too, even though he could have done just as much damage to 6 yo girls with a bat or a knife.

 

[woodie1976]

The world is a crazy, mixed up place for sure. Best thing you can do is hug your kids, protect them as best you can and hope for the best.

AMEN!! i tell my kids i love them and hug them every chance i get. most of the time its before they leave for school, bed, outside time and any other time i feel the want or need. theres even times i'm gone at work or something i call home just to tell them i love them or going on a short or long trip. my wife and kids are my life. i will do anything for them at any time to any extent i need to do. i think i can speak for all parents when saying that also. mess with my friends mess with my toys but mess with my wife kids or house and you are gunna get hurt in one way or another.

like monkey wrench said once again, all you can do is hug your kids tell them you love them and hope for the best.

 

[bustedgears]

...went of on his Romspringa (SP) and decided to stay gone and one day come back to avenge something that happened to him as a child.

Exactly what fox said.

 

[Hunter]

Whatever happend to the good old days of the postman just shooting his coworkers at the post office.

 

[psunitro]

This is right around me. about 1/2 hr 45 mins away. VERY VERY sad. They also said it could have been this school since it is a one room schoolhouse and security is nill,as are phones,no one would have a cell phone to pull out,ect.

 

[Buggyracer28]

This pisses me off..... I can't believe someone would do that.

 

[ZANDOR]

Pure disgust...Is what I am feeling...3 times in the past week this has happened In our country in the last week..
And people wonder why I keep a gun in every room in my house..
Pariond.Maybe...Protected Yes.
ill be dammed if some is going to come in my house with out a fight..Don't worry all my guns are hid were I can get to them...I don't have kids running around here...When they are they are no were they can get to them.
I feel sick about this...

 

[bustedgears]

The guy who did this was getting revenge on a twenty year grudge. I hope he gets prison justice.

 

[woodie1976]

Pariond.Maybe...Protected Yes.

one of the best ways i have heard that put..

The guy who did this was getting revenge on a twenty year grudge. I hope he gets prison justice.

the guy took his own life before the cops got in the school so theres no prison for him.

 

[Plaidfish]

Great more anti gun crazies are gonna eat this poop with a shovel and crap out nonsense.....I'd like to know on these attacks how many of the weapons were legal???
that butthead did the best thing he could have done for himself by commiting suicide...I'm sure even the convicts he'd have been bunking with would find this worse than the pedophiles that prey on the "normal" population...much less a community of defenseless people....
this is why I recommend every parent teach or have their child take a self defense class....even a 5 year old can hurt an adult if you show them what they need to do and prepare them for these jackoffs.....like Zandor said paranoid? maybe..protected? yes..
I used to leave my house all day when I was 8 and my parents wouldn't worry about it.....I can't let my kid out of my site now because of these dillholes.....

 

[Monkey Wrench]

They can be very cruel people towards their own,

I am not discounting your point, Jet, because you are absolutely correct, but how do you think they view our culture? Cincinnati is on pace to break the all-time homicide record. There are creeps and weirdos crawling the internet and neighborhoods looking for children to sexually assault. Kids are killing principals because they got caught with cigarettes. Professional football players are stomping on the heads of other players. Catholic priests are stealing literally millions of dollars from the church (not to mention the whole melee with the sexual assaults).

You are right, Jet. Their culture does have its dark side, to be sure, but it's not as if the general American population is a shining example of a civil society.

I am not a fan of guns by any stretch, but I am not anti-gun. I believe any law abiding citizen has the right to own a gun to protect themselves and I would tend to not support legislation outlawing the right to bear arms. I've seen signs and bumper stickers that, while maybe intended to be tongue-n-cheek, actually is true. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

I just think that if people in general could be more tolerant and accepting in general, the world would be a better place.

 

[jetmechG550]

I understand what you are saying and wasn't trying to make it sound like we don't have our issues, but we also don't try to hide that they exist behind some other way like not owning modern conveniences or technology. Too many on the outside the Amish community seems so simple and paints this pretty green picture of how life is so simple that those on the outside truly don't understand. I only state this as I know people in the Amish community and have had a bit deeper look into it than someone taking a ride through the country to buy some "Amish made cheese or bread" The point I was making initially was that, while wrong no matter what, it wasn't like this guy was targeting the "poor innocent simple Amish" people, something sparked him off and while the children were innocent of anything the community as whole is not as innocent as they are portrayed. It seems as though this instance is not much different than some former alter boy going to avenge what some priest did to him is his formidible years.

 

[Monkey Wrench]

I understand what you are saying and wasn't trying to make it sound like we don't have our issues, but we also don't try to hide that they exist behind some other way like not owning modern conveniences or technology. Too many on the outside the Amish community seems so simple and paints this pretty green picture of how life is so simple that those on the outside truly don't understand. I only state this as I know people in the Amish community and have had a bit deeper look into it than someone taking a ride through the country to buy some "Amish made cheese or bread" The point I was making initially was that, while wrong no matter what, it wasn't like this guy was targeting the "poor innocent simple Amish" people, something sparked him off and while the children were innocent of anything the community as whole is not as innocent as they are portrayed. It seems as though this instance is not much different than some former alter boy going to avenge what some priest did to him is his formidible years.

I hear ya, brother. While I personally have had only limited dealings with the Amish, my father has told me many stories of dealing with them when he was a Health and Human Services inspector many, many moons ago. He's told me that when inspecting their dairy farms, he'd mandate, by law, that they would need to install modern refrigeration and processing equipment to meet health codes or he'd have to shut them down and that they would become extremely irate, stating that it was an intrusion of government officials to impede on their right to practice their faith and whatnot. Religion, obviously, had nothing to do with it, but rather public safety as a whole, so basically he told them pound salt and either buck up or shut down. Eventually they installed all this modern equipment in their dairy farms and processing areas, then go poop in the woods because their home didn't have indoor plumbing.

I guess the question that may never get answered is why this guy did this and what set him off. I haven't heard if this guy was ever a member of the Amish community or not, but you make a valid point, Jet, relating to the jilted altar boy coming back 20 years later to take his revenge.

Whatever the case, it is unfortunate it even happened.

 

[jetmechG550]

I agree completely, and there's the problem you state is we'll never really know why this guy fell off his rocker. My feelings, just go kill yourself, who cares, but leave others out of it.