Now what....

[Ritz413]

I will take assembly directions like these any day

 

[HPIguy]

I was already aware I can throw money at different wheels and tires....if I run these wheels and tires what is the intended surface? Can I use it as is on carpet with any positive results. Your beef with the set up is with redcat let's stop pretending you and I have an argument going.

You asked for help with a drift car and I tried to help. You've obviously got it all figured out chief, so no need for my help. Best of luck.

 

[Ritz413]

You asked for help with a drift car and I tried to help. You've obviously got it all figured out chief, so no need for my help. Best of luck.

I did not....good on you moving on

 

[xjtorc]

Everyone is worried about your incorrect front toe setup because it will hinder/ruin the performance of the car on any surface you run it on. Everyone is looking out for you so you enjoy it the most. No need to take offense. You actually didn’t build the steering setup per the manual.

You have the ball studs for the steering links installed in the wrong holes on the knuckles. Move them to the holes I marked in red and you’ll have the actual box setup.

This part of the manual actually makes it impossible to tell which hole it should go in which caused your error. A different vantage point would help this step tremendously.

Also, you’ll see the box stock setup at the back of the manual does not have toe in set. It has 4 degrees of toe out:

 

[Ritz413]

Everyone is worried about your incorrect front toe setup because it will hinder/ruin the performance of the car on any surface you run it on. Everyone is looking out for you so you enjoy it the most. No need to take offense. You actually didn’t build the steering setup per the manual.

You have the ball studs for the steering links installed in the wrong holes on the knuckles. Move them to the holes I marked in red and you’ll have the actual box setup.

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This part of the manual actually makes it impossible to tell which hole it should go in which caused your error. A different vantage point would help this step tremendously.

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Also, you’ll see the box stock setup at the back of the manual does not have toe in set. It has 4 degrees of toe out:

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I really can't stress this enough, I have done zero to try and set up the car. I only appear frustrated because I only wanted the answer to the 1 question I asked about the appropriate surface to run this on vs. What I have available.
After I have driven a car and made an effort to set things up, if I was struggling I would then seek advice on all the things that have taken over this conversation.

 

[xjtorc]

It doesn’t matter what surface you drive it on. With that goofy setup it’s not going to do anything right, even if you were drifting on a perfectly polished concrete track. Everyone was trying to help and you’re whining about building it correctly but you didn’t build it correctly. That’s all buddy!

 

[Ritz413]

It doesn’t matter what surface you drive it on. With that goofy setup it’s not going to do anything right, even if you were drifting on a perfectly polished concrete track. Everyone was trying to help and you’re whining about building it correctly but you didn’t build it correctly. That’s all buddy!

I realize not everyone wants the same experience from their cars. If it's built that terrible it would show in the performance and I will have a puzzle to solve. That is a good time for me.
That's not whining there bud.

 

[CreepyQuarryCrawler]

In general toe in is for passenger cars, although not this severe. Makes it easier to track a straight line over distance but is less aggressive for high speed cornering. Toe out is seen more often in racing applications where responsive steering is key. Can make the car feel twitchy etc.

I know this isn't a suspension tuning thread, but it seems to have shifted a bit.

Bashers (think Stampede 4x4 VXL, 1/8 Arrma Outkast) will typically run slight toe out to add stability at speed and to make them feel less twitchy.

If you look at stuff like that, RTR out of the box you'll find them setup this way.

Rock crawlers and race stuff, I personally run aligned straight, but I haven't raced in years.

Good luck setting up that sweet chassis!

 

[Ritz413]

I know this isn't a suspension tuning thread, but it seems to have shifted a bit.

Bashers (think Stampede 4x4 VXL, 1/8 Arrma Outkast) will typically run slight toe out to add stability at speed and to make them feel less twitchy.

If you look at stuff like that, RTR out of the box you'll find them setup this way.

Rock crawlers and race stuff, I personally run aligned straight, but I haven't raced in years.

Good luck setting up that sweet chassis!

Thank you. This goes against conventional wisdom using toe out for stability, and lack of twitchy steering

 

[CreepyQuarryCrawler]

Thank you. This goes against conventional wisdom using toe out for stability, and lack of twitchy steering

All good. When you said 1:1 I figured out what was happening; it's opposite in RC.

 

[WickedFog]

I did answer that. People run on all kinds of surfaces, go read what I posted.

You're steering is all jacked up. You want this. With the leading wheel (wheel closest to the direction you're sliding in) to have just a bit more angle than the outside tire.

Ok, now I'm cornfused. That car would be sliding right, and turning left, correct? So the wheel closest to the direction it's sliding is the right wheel? I was trying to see which wheel had more angle, but they looked the same to me. So I tried creating this image to use the image edges to see, and I am still not sure. I think your eyes need calibrated

So if my RMX is turning left, the left wheel should be turning farther correct? Seems correct since it's turning a tighter radius. I really want ine if those little bad boys!

 

[HPIguy]

Ok, now I'm cornfused. That car would be sliding right, and turning left, correct? So the wheel closest to the direction it's sliding is the right wheel? I was trying to see which wheel had more angle, but they looked the same to me. So I tried creating this image to use the image edges to see, and I am still not sure. I think your eyes need calibrated
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So if my RMX is turning left, the left wheel should be turning farther correct? Seems correct since it's turning a tighter radius. I really want ine if those little bad boys!

The direction the front wheels are pointed in is the direction you are sliding towards.

 

[WickedFog]

The direction the front wheels are pointed in is the direction you are sliding towards.

Oh yeah. Derr. I wasn't functiong on caffine yet when I replied. I was looking at it like the car's turning left, ass is going the opposite. But only at first huh