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I'm surprised that someone didnt tell the guy with the engine plate problem to just cut the ends past the plate screwhole off of a stock engine mount brace!
 
Why lock the door ?
Several years ago we lost a new member. He posted in a 10 year old thread and kicked up so much dust we could hardly read our monitors. We never saw him again till another newbie, a few years later, found his bones curled up by the furnace in the sub cellar.
We used to keep a mad dog down there and he would scare the newbies back upstairs, but he finally escaped. It's now been well over a year since Zandor has wandered by looking for scraps or handouts.
 
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Several years ago we lost a new member. He posted in a 10 year old thread and kicked up so much dust we could hardly read our monitors. We never saw him again till another newbie, a few years later, found his bones curled up by the furnace in the sub cellar.
We used to keep a mad dog down there and he would scare the newbies back upstairs, but he finally escaped. It's now been well over a year since Zandor has wandered by looking for scraps or handouts.

how about you make this a game, but in real life, kidnap the newbies and keep em beside the "veteran noobies"
 
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