Hosim x27 esc

[cbass749]

Hey guys new to this. I have the hosim x27. So today I decided to be dumb and run it at 8s.... well now I need a new esc. I would like to upgrade it to run at least 4-6s. Issue is because looks like this esc is also the receiver. So now looks like I either stay stock or I will need get the esc and transmitter/receiver. Just looking for advice. It ran for about 10-15min on 8s but then started to smoke and now won't work. What do you all think need good recommendations. I also really want to get the arma kraton 6s. So would like to upgrade to be in that level. Thanks for advice

 

[luke66]

What scale is the rig? A Hobbywing 8BL150 would work fine for 4-6S

 

[DavidB1126]

Well considering stock motor is 3100kv and a fully charged 8s is 33.6v, the motor was spinning at 104,000 rpm, and then the stock esc was only meant for 3s max I believe if I read it right...

 

[luke66]

^ in that case you’ll need a lower KV motor as well. 2000kv or so will be perfect

 

[cbass749]

What scale is the rig? A Hobbywing 8BL150 would work fine for 4-6S

Considered a 1/8 but seems small it's the hosim x27

 

[luke66]

Gotta look that up…..

 

[majin]

• 【Powerful Electronics】This rc car is equipped with powerful 3660 3100KV brushless motor with metal heat sink and metal aluminum center wave box with fan for lightning speed. The built-in 85A brushless ESC gives the RC truck even more potential and upgradability, and is precision engineered for maximum energy conversion. Experience thrilling speeds with our brushless rc monster truck! Compatible with 3S batteries for great upgradability and potential.

 

[jojobeans]

The x27 uses a 2in1 ESC/Reciver combo. You'll need a radio/reciever if you put in a new ESC.
With the size of the diffs in that car and their construction, I would caution against even 4s use. Chrome steel coming from china to be used in RC applications is not very durable compared to even sintered steel and my experience with Hosim is their diffs are usually zinc in reality, which is even softer. I don't know how much id trust their advertising unless I cracked one open and looked for myself. I'd stick to 3s unless you really just want to see what will happen. The car will tear itself apart on 6s. Just a fair warning. You will also need a much larger and lower KV motor, which your motor mount may not accept. Id look for a 4068 or a 4074 in the 2000-2200kv range for 4-6s use in that particular application. Jennys RC has some if you poke around for a pretty good deal.

DumboRC makes some pretty good budget radio systems, they use the radiolink protocol so range and reliability is pretty decent. They're multi model memory, so you can bind more than one receiver to a single radio. Very nice if you decide to get more RC's later on.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/DUMBORC-X6-T...ocphy=1012887&hvtargid=pla-823266995214&psc=1

For a 6s capable ESC, it's hard to beat this value from JennysRC. You can still run 3s with this ESC as well. You won't be able to run a 2s Lipo though.
Link: https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma...n-ara8611v6-copy?variant=48703224185109&gQT=1

If you want to run a 2s Lipo at all, then you'll need something like this since the aforementioned ESC will only run 3s-6s. You can NOT use a 4s-6s Lipo on this particular ESC though. This may seem small for a "1/8 scale" and it is... but the Hosim x27 is more like a 1/10 scale. They market it as a "Mini 1/8 scale" but it's nowhere near the size, weight or the build quality to really be considered anything close to a 1/8 scale. Tl;Dr: This ESC will be plenty for this car IMO. It will be an upgrade over the stock one and you can use your stock motor.
Link: https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma...-typhon-ara4302v3?_pos=3&_sid=33519d028&_ss=r

 

[cbass749]

• 【Powerful Electronics】This rc car is equipped with powerful 3660 3100KV brushless motor with metal heat sink and metal aluminum center wave box with fan for lightning speed. The built-in 85A brushless ESC gives the RC truck even more potential and upgradability, and is precision engineered for maximum energy conversion. Experience thrilling speeds with our brushless rc monster truck! Compatible with 3S batteries for great upgradability and potential.

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Thank you!

 

[cbass749]

The x27 uses a 2in1 ESC/Reciver combo. You'll need a radio/reciever if you put in a new ESC.
With the size of the diffs in that car and their construction, I would caution against even 4s use. Chrome steel coming from china to be used in RC applications is not very durable compared to even sintered steel and my experience with Hosim is their diffs are usually zinc in reality, which is even softer. I don't know how much id trust their advertising unless I cracked one open and looked for myself. I'd stick to 3s unless you really just want to see what will happen. The car will tear itself apart on 6s. Just a fair warning. You will also need a much larger and lower KV motor, which your motor mount may not accept. Id look for a 4068 or a 4074 in the 2000-2200kv range for 4-6s use in that particular application. Jennys RC has some if you poke around for a pretty good deal.

DumboRC makes some pretty good budget radio systems, they use the radiolink protocol so range and reliability is pretty decent. They're multi model memory, so you can bind more than one receiver to a single radio. Very nice if you decide to get more RC's later on.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/DUMBORC-X6-T...ocphy=1012887&hvtargid=pla-823266995214&psc=1

For a 6s capable ESC, it's hard to beat this value from JennysRC. You can still run 3s with this ESC as well. You won't be able to run a 2s Lipo though.
Link: https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma...n-ara8611v6-copy?variant=48703224185109&gQT=1

If you want to run a 2s Lipo at all, then you'll need something like this since the aforementioned ESC will only run 3s-6s. You can NOT use a 4s-6s Lipo on this particular ESC though. This may seem small for a "1/8 scale" and it is... but the Hosim x27 is more like a 1/10 scale. They market it as a "Mini 1/8 scale" but it's nowhere near the size, weight or the build quality to really be considered anything close to a 1/8 scale. Tl;Dr: This ESC will be plenty for this car IMO. It will be an upgrade over the stock one and you can use your stock motor.
Link: https://jennysrc.com/products/arrma...-typhon-ara4302v3?_pos=3&_sid=33519d028&_ss=r

Very helpful man much appreciated! And I ran it at 8s surprised it lasted as long as it did tbh. The esc got fried before anything else broken. But i was having fun at 4s that's the power band I want or 6s even 8s was nuts tho haha was kinda testing to see what would happen. Should've stopped and cooled down when it started to cut off... lesson learned

 

[jojobeans]

Very helpful man much appreciated! And I ran it at 8s surprised it lasted as long as it did tbh. The esc got fried before anything else broken. But i was having fun at 4s that's the power band I want or 6s even 8s was nuts tho haha was kinda testing to see what would happen. Should've stopped and cooled down when it started to cut off... lesson learned

Keep in mind when over volting ESC's with built in low voltage cutoffs. They typically are set at a specific voltage that will be far too low for a larger battery than they are rated for and will damage your battery. For example; 3.4v/cell is a popular cutoff. Since the ESC can't read individual cells, it takes the voltage coming out of the battery to determine how many cells the battery is. Some ESC's will pulse the motor a number of times when switched on to indicate what it has determined the cell count to be. Then, it takes that 3.4v/cell and multiplies it by what ever it determined the cell count to be, to find the minimum voltage before it needs to shut power down to prevent damage to the battery.

Here are some examples of the total voltage of each Lipo pack if the LVC cuts out at 3.4v/cell to help illustrate my point:
2s - 6.8v
3s - 10.2v
4s - 13.6v
6s - 20.4v
8s - 27.2v

If your ESC is rated for a maximum of a 3s Lipo, it may not have the capability to recognize that 8s pack as an 8s pack. It may and most likely will treat it as a 3s pack. Meaning, it will drain you 8s pack down to 10.2v or 1.2v/cell. The pack will be ruined at best, catch on fire at worst if allowed to drain that low under a load. Assuming the ESC doesn't immediately destroy itself. Something to be mindful of and it's a good practice if you're going to over volt something like an ESC to disable the LVC and run an external low voltage alarm. Over volting ESC's are fun... I've personally ran 4s on my stock vxl ESC on my MERV a few times without frying it. Sometimes they can take it, but don't rely on the ESC to protect your batteries and be mindful of the maximum RPM's your motor is rated for so you don't exceed it.