Drifting

[Viperuk1]

i realy dnt like the idea of all plastic wheels u hav no control what so ever! and that video just proved it!lol watch the vid at the start of the topic if you wana see a drift!lol

 

[667]

I've been looking at a few videos on You Tube of people drifting their cars.:OMG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMVWNhnM5w&mode=related&search=

Now I know how to do it in a proper car, but is it the same principle in a R/C??

Is there any special equipment that you need or a certain setup on your car?

Any info would be cool I reckon it looks wicked! Do you think you would be able to do it with a Truck???

That video was awesome!

My 2.5 stampede tries to drift when I drive it on road with the traxxas chevron tires.

 

[swarmjt]

if u want to get the pvc tires cheap..go to ebay

also.. the harder the tires.. the easier it will drift

 

[Tweak]

Or you could just take some very thin plastic and a torch, treat it like heat shrink tubing and wrap it around the tires, heat it up, make sure it is nice and tight and have fun.

Of course, it will only last a very short period of time but it will give you almost the exact same feel as the compounds used in drift tires.

 

[Lessen]

Or you could just take some very thin plastic and a torch, treat it like heat shrink tubing and wrap it around the tires, heat it up, make sure it is nice and tight and have fun.

not a bad idea... got me thinking.. How about battery wrap?

 

[Doggie]

has any one tried those drift tyres you can get??? arnt they meant to be like pvc and rubber?

Hello. I've tried the drift tyres sold in the shops. There are 2 types, hard rubber tyres and plastic tyres (the Yokomo drift tyres are rubber with plastic rings, so they're considered plastic). But if you're going to drift with a nitro car, then rubber is the way to go. I find it hard to drift with a nitro car (I'm using a Team Magic G4) but this guy Shinichi Yodo from HPI is doing it with his Nitro Stage-D conversion (the engine is moved to the front). I think you can still find the streaming video on HPI website.

With electric car, you can choose between plastic and hard rubber (obviously you get high speed drifts using rubber). The rubber tyres range from these REALLY hard ones almost like plastic, to the softer ones which are still hard compared to normal ones used in grip racing.

For the car, any electric 4WD touring chassis will do (you just put some lead weight at the front bumper to make it drift better), but the Tamiya TA03F has got its motor at the front like a real car (and Shigenobu Togari's TA03F was so fast it actually beat the nitro cars in a mixed run)
I got an electric HPI Stage-D, but I think the Hot Bodies Cyclone S Drift Spec is a better choice.

You can also try softer springs all around, centre one way, and lock the diffs to make the car go into drift easier.

Yes, RC drift cars are all 4WD. I once tried making a drift car just by removing the front drivetrain of a 4WD tourer (while keeping the sticky rubber tyres) but it was a pain to drive.

Anyways, this shop has a section for RC drift cars.
http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/

Hope it helps.

 

[Viperuk1]

cheers m8 very informative!

Ill have to try some.

 

[whoismikeford414]

I've been drifting 4wd electic cars for almost a year, I'm pretty good at it, most of the drifters around here, yes, we are building a drifting community and were makin it big, we use a ABS compound piping, pvc is jus too slippery, if your really interested in this new form of rc, visit this website WWW.SFLRCDRIFT.COM it is a florida forum mostly but we have ABS distributors who precut and round the abs for perfect drifting, and if you have an electic car that would be 10 times better for drifting, its fun and different, my user name on that website is the same as this so you can pm me if you want with any questions

the most popular chassis for drifting are
team associated tc3 or tc4, tamiya tt01 ta01 tt01-d, yokomo mr4tc-sd, doesn't really matter where the engine is, its about weight distribution from side to side, not front to back, no need to go buy a 500 dollar chassis for drifting, just a strong durable one, a chassis that you can lock up the differentials, adjust the toe in, and camber

 

[Viperuk1]

Wicked m8 I'm gna check it out i am really interested init! it jus looks wicked when ur doin it!

So ur sayin that an electric car is better than a nitro??

 

[NorthJerseyHobby]

It is almost impossible to do it with an AWD car with rubber tires. Unless there is a serious amount of sand or dirt, it really isn't possible.

I'm not an expert or anything but I've seen the way cars look and you can just remove the front dogbone and then you'd have a rear wheel drive car or truck. Am I right? It may only be certain models though.

 

[Lessen]

Turning an RC touring car into a RWD vehicle makes them EXTREMELY hard to control. Not that it isn't possible but it would take A LOT of practice.

 

[Doggie]

I've been looking at a few videos on You Tube of people drifting their cars.:OMG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMVWNhnM5w&mode=related&search=

Now I know how to do it in a proper car, but is it the same principle in a R/C??

Is there any special equipment that you need or a certain setup on your car?

Any info would be cool I reckon it looks wicked! Do you think you would be able to do it with a Truck???

i realy dnt like the idea of all plastic wheels u hav no control what so ever! and that video just proved it!lol watch the vid at the start of the topic if you wana see a drift!lol

Oops, I just saw the video that you posted. That's the HPI Nitro Stage-D conversion.

Judging from your posts, it seems like rubber-tyre drifting is the one for you, whether it's nitro or electric. The Nitro Stage-D is gonna cost a bit since you need to get a Nitro RS4 3 kit as well as the conversion kit.
I'm also into rubber-tyre drifting (electric) but people in my club are into agricultural irrigation pipe-tyre drifting and they complain about me going too fast, so I wait for them in the straights (it's more fun to drift together).

Special equipment would be: HPI D-box drift assist system (it's something attached to the steering servo and applies counter-steer automatically)

Anyways, here are some books on RC drifting (I've bought the 2006 one) it contains reviews and set ups of some of the drift kits in the market.

Drift Bible 2006

Drift Bible 2007

 

[Viperuk1]

Special equipment would be: HPI D-box drift assist system (it's something attached to the steering servo and applies counter-steer automatically)

Surly if you got that it would kind of take away the fun of drifting. it would just do it for you!?

 

[Doggie]

Surly if you got that it would kind of take away the fun of drifting. it would just do it for you!?

It's meant to aid those who are still getting used to drifting. You can adjust its sensitivity, turning it down as you get used to counter-steering.

Yes, the thing detects tailslides and applies the appropriate amount of counter-steer so your car won't spin out (it's like a gyro on a heli). You don't really need it if you're drifting with plastic tyres though. The car would be slow enough for most people to apply counter-steer in time before the car spins out. Probably HPI made it to support its line of rubber drift tyres (since plastic tyres don't go with nitro cars)

 

[NewKid]

i might start drifting soon

 

[Viperuk1]

I c mite hav 2 check it out. any ideas on price?

 

[Doggie]

I c mite hav 2 check it out. any ideas on price?

The D-Box? Hmmm, I think it's around 6000 yen (25 pounds for you) before shipping from one of these stores... just ask them.

http://www.rc-champ.co.jp/
http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/

Yeh, I find it cheaper to buy my drifting needs from Japan and get them shipped to Australia (a lot of HPI parts are from Japan, except HPI bodies which are made in USA).

 

[whoismikeford414]

just like all RC stuff, prices range quickly, i really recomend that if you want to drift, to get an electric car, less money, less maintanence, less headaches, just a good ol battery and a switch to turn on n ur good to go, prices range from like a TAMIYA tt01 which can range from 140-270 all the way to a associated TC5, I've only dealt with shaft driven electric cars, you dont even need that good of a motor to drift, most people use PVC piping compound, or a ABS compound piping for tires, this makes the car slide like a REAL drift car... if you are REALLY interested and need help with anything, message or e mail me, I've been around this drifting seen for almost a year so basically i know everything there is to know