circus animal abuse

[hpiracer]

went to the circus friday night with my family it was ok the only thing that kept popping into my mind was animal abuse does anyone else think that the circus is abusing animals to make money

also I'm not no save the whales animal activist either I'm just curious
google gave me some disturbing sites here's the links
http://www.circuses.com/
http://www.starbreezes.com/11/circusabuse.html
http://www.animaland.org/asp/realissues/circuses.asp

 

[jetmechG550]

They are disturbing sites because they are so one sided. Animal rights activists and environmentalists are really fuckin nuts and find the most obscure info they can to sway people. If they can't find anything, they make their own videos and pictures. If you're going to a good circus like Ringling Bros, those animals are probably treated better than most of the people in the show. Also go to about any zoo in the US and you'll find elephants that have been trained to do tricks and suck too, you don't think the elephant handlers at the zoo really treat those animals with that kind of abuse do you.

 

[RC10lover627]

i dont think there rly abusing the animals cuz i mean if they wip an elephant or somen do u think that the elephant can feel it??? and they do keep the in cages but not all the time and i never saw chains on a elephant before.. i think half of those pics r made up.. but i could be wrong????? the circus animals r most likely treated the same way the animals at the zoo r treated???

 

[Plaidfish]

NO THEY ARE NOT......
they are not all like the ones in those sites but there is abuse...how do you get an animal to to such severe irregularities...I mean a dog is one thing you can slowly work them into things but an elephant or tiger or bear?!?!?!!?
Elephant don't have chains because they don't need them...you know the saying an elephant never forgets.......they use rope when they are babies.....the baby tries to break it and can't they try for months sometimes years and then they are "broke"....you have broken it's will...the elephant will never try to break it again unless traumatized or spooked......the animals are then beaten when they do something "Wrong" it may not be a beating like whipped to submission but it's still a beating.......I will not take my daughter to the circus personally....I don't preach about it to others but we have seen cirque du solei many times...I think it is way more impressive than the animal training anyway......now I know there are good circus trainers as well so I'm not waving the flag of end all shows......but I have issues w/ the whole animal sales capture thing....dogs and cats are a domesticated animal and historically (for thousands of years) have lived symbiotically w/ humans......I have a ferret because I found it and it was obviously not able to survive on it's own...am I interferring w/ "nature" yes...but I do feel bad I have to contain him to the house.....would I ever buy a pet...NO....I don't want to encourage an industry that does have many bad aspects to it........do I look down on someone who does buy animals...NO...their life, who the fiddlesticks am I to tell them what to do w/ it.......I've had dogs when I was a kid and I never beat them....they know when you are angry w/ something they did...no need to beat it into them, but you do have to be the Alpha in the pack.....anyway they do need to beat the animal to get them to do some of those tricks or spend lots of time w/ them like in a zoo...the keepers have access to animals and the animals have their space so ther is more respect int that atmosphere.....
just my

 

[Tarant]

Animal abuse is a horrible thing.
I am not taking anyones side but this is what I think.

Why is it so easy for people to get elephants,tigers,loins things like that, Because the government is supposed to stop things like that.
But they have one Big problem. Almost all these animals come from one of 2 places Africa and Asia.
Tha problem is African and Asian populations are riseing to fast, Families have any were from 1 to 8 children. In Africa aids has swept the nation and the biggest way aids is transmitter is through sexual contact which leds to many children, in africa and asia people are being born quicker then they are dieing so more people means more homes, so the their Government burns thousands of acres of wildlands just to make room for all the people.
So all the animals have to be relocated or killed but many are put on boats or planes and are smuggled in to the U.S. But the african and asian Governments dont care they just turn thier heads.
I am not a Green peace/tree huggin/live like a animal naked and free. I come from a long line of Montana Loggers so dont think that I just think animals should be treated fairly.