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Will 25% nitro kill my Inferno 7.5 ??

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Hi all.

Due to some recent changes in my LSH and reconfigutarion of their nitro stock they now only have 10%, 16% and 25%.

Offcause I could go and buy 1:1 of 16% and 25% and mix them into 20.5% buy I just thought for the sake of simplicity I'll run 25% in my Inferno 7.5.

I have the GX-21 stock engine in there with only 1½-2 gallons through it.

Will I kille it or somply just never have a good running engine if I go for the 25%. I have no overheat problems as it is now (20%)

Also I run a Savage25 and would like to store only one percentage
 
i have never used 25% but i dont believe it would kill your engine? I know poeple use 30% and it runs just fine, it may shorten your engine life but not enough for you to notice!!
 
I also read somewhere (Not sure where) that if you change the % of fuel that you should go through the breakin procedure(sp?) again. Other words pretend it is a new engine again.
 
If your going to run a new mixture of fuel you should let it run one tank on idle to re-initiate the break-in process. You can add a spray or two of armor-all to your bottle of fuel to ensure a bubbleless fuel mixture.
 
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Gaingreen: change the plug... hotter or colder... are you sure that is nessecery?

Currently I use the OS A3 it came with. I have some OS A5 for my Savage 25 and some OS #8 for my T-Maxx.

Ericke1 & others: OK. I will make a mini-break-in with an idle tank and one slow running tank and then the retuning begins. All after richening it up first....

I will let you know how it goes regarding performance and temps.

Thank you for the quick advice....
 
I personally think it's going to blow up... it will Kill your engine. J/K... no, just do what they mentioned above and you should be just fine. You should get a tad more power out of 25% anyway... engine life shouldn't be noticibly less either. You'll be just fine man.
 
No just put a new plug in. Because the old plug is broken in with the lower nitro. That old plug is gonna go quick under the new fuel. New plug and richen up just a hair. If your engine was in tune, should just need about 1/8 more on both needles. I switched from 20 to 30 and the plug went almost instantly. I personally don't see any advantage after the 20%. I can just get the 30% so much cheaper.

OH and I would recomend not using an A3, I don't know why they give you such a hot plug. Try the A5. I have never been able to tune a engine properly with an A3. Well, of course if your in a cold climate then the A3 would be needed. I live in Atlanta where it is H O T. I run RB 7s in the summer and RB 6s in the winter.
 
I run the A5 in MI... works out great. Even though MI weather sucks ass... maybe it's cause it never gets to run cause it's always raining, snowing, humid as poop, storming, or whatever... Ha!
 
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OK. Thanks again.

I have just bought 15L (4 gallons) 25% today.
 
If you were to drop that fuel on your buggy and/or engine, then it might kill your Inferno. :D

Plug change, mini-break in and retune is all good advice.
 
Hehe. Yup Might "seperate" the Nitro from the buggy except in small 125cc ammounts...
 
Also.. you can not mix the fuel to get the different %.. meaning.. mixing 20 and 30 fuels does not give you 25%.. mixing 16, and 25, does not give you 20.5%.. common misconception.. same with shock oil.. that dont work..

25% is fine.. most engines come from the factory with head shims for 25%..
 
Ok here is the answer to your question, read this:

Source: Nitro RC Magazine

RC car engines are designed to run with a certain percentage of nitromethane. An engine designed to run on fuel with 20 percent nitro is configured for a certain compression ratio and a fuel/air ratio that provides ideal performance. Introducing a considerably higher concentration of nitro allows a greater overall amount of fuel volume. It can result in higher compression (air is the only compressible component in the fuel mix), detonation (when fuel explodes rather than burns) and higher operating temperatures. These outcomes show the fuel exceeds the design limitations of the engine. Even if none of these symptoms are patently obvious, combustion is compromised, and that prevents fuel from being completely burned. It can create an unstable idle and erratic fuel-mixture settings. These conditions are common in engines running on higher than recommended percentages of nitromethane. Essentially, the answer to the “How much nitro?” question is that you should follow the engine manufacturer's recommendations.

There is a “window” of about 5 percent both above and below the recommended percentage of nitro you can have in your fuel before engine performance will be noticeably affected. If a manufacturer recommends 20 percent nitro, you can get away with 25 percent. Go beyond that, and you are likely to wind up with an engine that runs hotter, gets poor fuel economy and is more difficult to tune. If your engine's manufacturer doesn't recommend a specific percentage of nitro, you may have to experiment to establish the proper balance of horsepower and efficiency.

CAN YOU CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF NITRO
IN FUEL WITHOUT DAMAGING THE ENGINE?

Yes and no. Yes, you can change the percentage of nitro in your fuel safely, but you must not make a change and run the engine hard right away. Every engine undergoes a process called “hysteresis.” In hysteresis, the engine components slowly acclimate to the specific cylinder pressure and engine temperature that result from burning a particular type and blend of fuel. A change in fuel changes the whole picture for the engine. An engine that is accustomed to a certain amount of expansion using its usual fuel might now have to cope with increased cylinder pressures and the additional expansion caused by higher temperatures. Simply pouring a new fuel into the tank and “letting 'er rip” places undue stress on the engine components.

If you use a different blend of fuel, your engine has to go through a second “break-in.” Run the fuel mixture slightly rich and ease into the throttle for a few tanks before you nail it. If you fail to follow this procedure, your engine will still survive 99 percent of the time, but it will last longer and run stronger if you make a gradual change to a new fuel. There is also a break-in period during which using less nitro presents a new set of parameters for the engine.
 
Why would it be a "commom misconseption" to mix eg.

1000cc (1L) of 16% and
1000cc (1L) of 25%.

Having 2000cc of (41 / 2 = 20.5%)

The Tornado Fuel I'm able to buy is made of

16% nitromethane : 160cc
14% oil : 140cc
70% Alcohol : 700cc
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25% nitromethane : 250cc
14% oil : 140cc
61% alcohol : 610cc

nitromethane total = 410cc
oil total = 280cc
alcohol total = 1310cc
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Total = 2000cc

Giving me:

410 cc devided by 2 = 205cc's of nitromethane pr 1000cc (!L)

Please explain to me why this is not 20.5%

How are the manufactures then calculating it. ??

I'm getting confused.. :idea:

Ericke1:

This is great info. I will do it as it (and you inhere) explains it...

Having crap weather in Denmark for the next few days so it might not be untill sunday at the earliest.....

thanks...
 
so i have a 1/10 xxxnt with a sirio .12 in it is 30% too much i couldnt get it to run the other day. i took the plug out and it looks rich but the needles are set pretty lean any suggestions.a little birdy told me engine size matters for fuel
 
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