Tired of this chit in the Hobby aftermarket!!!

[Wardo]

Originally posted by StrechM



You do understand that the suppliers sell only what has been made available. But then again I must be skewed or something.
It’s not only magical but also very, very mysterious, lmao!

Yep, of the 3000 companies that they stock making maxx aluminum parts in 472 different shades, Traxxas replament parts out sell them all, combined.

 

[StrechM]

WARDO, you know that it is just my opinon but I do believe that the mfrs. should increase the quality. There are better grades of materials that are just a little more in cost when mass produced. Yes I do spend the bucks, usually around the $2,000+ range by the time the project is finished. The last rtr that I purchased had a small handful of stock parts left on it, part of the tranny, diff cases and few other misc. parts. The 2 ongoing projects that are on my bench are completely built or being built from scatch. The next one past those will be a buggy converted to an unlimited mt class and then here we go again. I would gladly save by spending a little more. That is all that I'm reffering to.

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

I don't know, but when I am in the hobby shops round here everyone is always waiting for hop-ups or ordering them or down right fighting over them. I see the stock guys that you talk about and come in but they are not to bulk of the people I see when at the LHS's. I have never worked in the RC industry so I really don't know. I will have to ask Jake next time I am in. He seems to have half and half. Half hop-ups and racing stuff, and half stock parts and kits. Racing is kinda big in our area I think though.

 

[scottm]

It does depend on the particular store. The nearest Hobby Town estimates that 90% is rtr and stock replacement parts. Our favorite lhs is a small independant, and thier business is closer to 50/50 in money spent, but that is still many more stock parts than aftermarket. They have sold as many as 12 tmaxxes in one day, yet they only sell a roll cage or extended chassis (any extended chassis, not just rc solutions) once a week or so.

I think most people have no money for hobbies at all, so most people who buy an rc are bairly able to afford an rtr. They need stock replacement parts and probably drive more carefully than me, anyway!

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

Yeah I drive my stuff like I stole it!

 

[discountman]

Originally posted by Wardo




OK, my business has been made up of about a 50/50 mix in the RC dept. of racers and hobby type people. 9 out of 10 hobby type people will still buy stock or the cheapest part available when their product breaks. Aftermarket parts at a higher cost is not an option for them.

I have been doing this, full time, for a living for quite a while now and it's not just me that can tell you this. My 5 regular sales people at my suppliers can also tell you this. Ones been dealing with hobby supplies since 1965, he knows where the market is and always has. He calls me ASAP when the Maxx bulkheads are back in stock :LoL:

You seem to think there is some magical market out there that we haven't seen yet. This is bottom line, what sells and what does not. It is just good old business like you say, your thinking is just skewed.


It boggles my mind of just where the hell you guys spend money like this on theses trucks.

wardo speaks the truth--- the entry level person is where the strongest part is. If the industry froze as is and no one new entered shops would go under fast!

seasoned racers want one thing---TO RACE. They will do that by the fastest means available. Since they have experience, they know tricks that will let them not spend as much and get what they wanted . So they don't always spend alot.

The new guy is either still learning or wants the easy way to "more power" and buys the aftermarket stuff first. Both types of customers are important, but wardo is right about the entry level guys.

The only dream "set up" is to supply a race team, but then they'd want the stuff for free so there goes the dream! *lol*

 

[FastEddy]

Originally posted by discountman

wardo speaks the truth--- the entry level person is where the strongest part is. If the industry froze as is and no one new entered shops would go under fast!

High School economics 101

Originally posted by discountman
The new guy is either still learning or wants the easy way to "more power" and buys the aftermarket stuff first. Both types of customers are important, but wardo is right about the entry level guys.

Rocket Science

Originally posted by discountman
seasoned racers want one thing---TO RACE. They will do that by the fastest means available. Since they have experience, they know tricks that will let them not spend as much and get what they wanted . So they don't always spend alot.

OK

Originally posted by discountman

The only dream "set up" is to supply a race team, but then they'd want the stuff for free so there goes the dream! *lol*

Looking at your quote above, Even if they didn't want stuff for free why would this be the "Dream"?
They don't spend a lot. Do you dream about only selling to racers, or would this be a boost in income for your company?

I guess what I'm wondering is why you made a post in this dead thread?

 

[StrechM]

We like to relive our past lives... we must be running out of threads.

 

[discountman]

just posting and opinion. actually didn't notice the date , but the opinion was still valid.

it would be a dream, because that is a ton of equipment and parts being used, don't know where you got the impression otherwise. This is especailly true if you started a team from the the ground up and they were paying for it. CArs, radios, replacement parts, hauler bags,etc. Again it was just an example in reference to high item usage. It is inherently not a practical model, that's why i referenced it as a "dream."I was referring to in that sense, but since most real teams have sponsors it's sort of just a dream by example for the refernce.

and how are you fasteddy? Seems like forever since we just sat and gabbed.

 

[HumboldtBlazer]

Originally posted by Wardo
As for making the stock parts better, somewhere here a line has to be drawn between building a great truck and actually being able to price them so they will sell. Bottom line is, the companies would rather sell and move product that a good percentage of people can afford instead of selling a few hundred pieces of a $1000 truck.


It's also safe to say, 50-75% if not more of the cars and trucks sold will never see an aftermarket part anyway.

I asked my lhs owner this same question because your comment made me curious. It might just be our area but he say racers business account for more than the basic RTR crowd. Like I said it just might be the area but more people here get into it and can't stop with aftermarket and race bread parts. Feel free to ask him the same question. His name is Jake and he runs the best LHS in NorCal in my honest opinion. www.jphracing.com Eddy you were actually there when I asked this remember.

 

[FastEddy]

Discountman,
To my knowledge we have never "gabbed" nor would I want to.
In the future, If you have the need to address anyone in a non thread related issue use e-mail or PM.

 

[discountman]

just making small talk eddy.

 

[FastEddy]

This is your second warning in less than 20 minutes.
If you feel the need to address anyone in a non thread related issue use PM or e-mail.

The third time you will be ban from using our forum.
-Ed