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yes, your right. I've been desperate for the hardened outdrives since december 2003 and it's already sept 2004. Mugen parts here are for MBX-5. I will see if they fit.

CorradoPsi said:
the answer is, if your desperate, just modify some mugen's.
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they are supposed to, all you have to do, is trim down the length of the cup. you can use an angle grinder, dremel tool, or a lathe. its not a precision job, so all will work.
 
well what can i say, here the uk it is a pleasure to order parts for my swift online with schu, what more can anyone ask for when it comes to support for ya buggy!

i managed to do a 30 foot jump with my swift yesterday, witha flip in mid air, i was well inpressed,
 
Broken Clutch Bell

I broke a tooth off of my clutch bell this last weekend. Has this happend to anyone else? And, has anyone installed a clutch bell with fewer teeth? I run my Swift on very rough terrain and was I thinking that a lower gear would work better. And lastly, has anyone used a non PRP clutch bell with any success?
 
Assuming the Swift clutch is a standard size (which I'm 99.9% sure it is, I've seen the swift and it looked normal) you should be able to swap in any standard buggy-type clutch bell. I've used HPI, GS, Ofna, and Mugen bells on my Storm. They're pretty much all the same size.

If a tooth broke off, I'd guess that you might have hit something that jolted the main gear or engine just a little, causing the gear mesh to misalign and bust off the tooth. Or, your bell was defective =)

I've seen one guy use a 12T on his buggy at the track (I'm guessing yours is 13T) and it had good low end power but it really robbed him of his top end speed. It really depends highly on the engine and terrain but usually people don't seem to go below 13T. With normal .21's this seems to provide a good mix of low end and high end.

I guess out in Europe they got some grassy tracks where they want a lot of speed, and those guys sometimes run crazy bells like 19T. Probably dead on the low end though.

You might have to retune the engine if you change gearing.
 
ok I've got a gripe! my swift has been out of commision for over a month now. i asked my LHS to order the parts for me and PRP never sent them. OK, miss communication, the shop didnt have an acct, but prp took thier order anyway and never said anything about it. the shop called them a week later when no parts arrived. the order was never processed and nobody called the shop to explain why. so now the shop calls to get dealer papers faxed over. this was over a week ago and still no fax. they can't become a dealer without the paperwork. and can't order my parts without being a dealer! talk about frustrating! the owner of my local shop is only in for 2 hours a night because he has another job. and when he is in, he is swamped with customers who want his expertise, so he has very little time to keep calling a manufacture. here i am trying to support my local hobby shop like prp promotes so much, and its proving to be VERY difficult

end rant, lets get this handled. cameron please PM me and i will give you the shops FAX number.
 
CBreaker, thanks for the info. I'll try to get a 12 and a 13 to replace the broken 13. Checking at tower hobbies now.

My LHS is a Swift dealer, but I order parts online 99% of the time because the guys who work at the LHS don't know nothin' 'bout nothin'! If you don't see the part on the wall, they have no idea where it might be and then try to sell you something that won't fit. Seriously, I could write a book about those morons!
 
Totally! There's a hobby shop near me that's the same way - they sell GS parts, and I go in there and say "I need a front lower suspension arm." They wouldn't even look in their parts bin without me telling them the part number. "How am I supposed to know what part you need without a part number?!" he says. HA! Not like I was asking for an obscure part.
 
dxm2 said:
I broke a tooth off of my clutch bell this last weekend. Has this happend to anyone else? And, has anyone installed a clutch bell with fewer teeth? I run my Swift on very rough terrain and was I thinking that a lower gear would work better. And lastly, has anyone used a non PRP clutch bell with any success?
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Hmm...
The flywheel is already too close to the brake calipers on the Swift with a 13T pinion. If you run a 12T it is going to get even closer.

What do you mean by rough terrain? Long grass or lots of hills to climb?

If the issue is long grass then I would find somewhere else to run because you will probably run into clutch slip and engine overheating problems whatever pinion you run.

If the issue is having enough torque to climb long hills then I would go for a bigger engine with more torque.
 
I'd love a bigger engine with more torque! Sign me up!

The terrain where I run is ungroomed dirt with lots of rocks and and other debris and I was hoping that a 12t clutch bell would give me better performance, although I'd be sacraficing top speed. I'm not sure it matters because I'm having a hard time finding a 12t.

Also, I removed one of the disks from the rear brakes to get more clearance back there, has anyone else done this? I haven't noticed any issues and the rear brakes still work well.
 
CorradoPsi said:
ok I've got a gripe! my swift has been out of commision for over a month now. i asked my LHS to order the parts for me and PRP never sent them. OK, miss communication, the shop didnt have an acct, but prp took thier order anyway and never said anything about it. the shop called them a week later when no parts arrived. the order was never processed and nobody called the shop to explain why. so now the shop calls to get dealer papers faxed over. this was over a week ago and still no fax. they can't become a dealer without the paperwork. and can't order my parts without being a dealer! talk about frustrating! the owner of my local shop is only in for 2 hours a night because he has another job. and when he is in, he is swamped with customers who want his expertise, so he has very little time to keep calling a manufacture. here i am trying to support my local hobby shop like prp promotes so much, and its proving to be VERY difficult

end rant, lets get this handled. cameron please PM me and i will give you the shops FAX number.
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Very interesting. What is the name of the hobbyshop in Pa ? I've only received 1 dealer application from Pa. and that was back in July 04. By any possible chance is the hobbyshop that your talking about is located in McMurray ? I'm usually right on it since it is an opportunity for us and the hobbyshop to supply thier customer's with swift parts. And just to let you know, PRP doens't just send parts to a hobbyshop without an APPROVED dealer application from me. Could you please PM me so that I can contact your LHS and findout whats going on ? Thanks.
 
i just got a PM from wagnerov. thanks for looking into this. the shop is Top Gun Hobbies in lancaster pa. they had placed an order for my parts and nobody told them about your policy on not shipping parts to non-dealers. they called back a week later and was then told about the policy and why the parts weren't shipped. at that time they asked for paperwork to be faxed over so that they could become dealers. this is where the problem was, no paperwork ever got there. the owner is basically doing this as a personal favor for me, since nobody else around here has a swift, and my next closest dealer is an hour drive 1 way from me. i was hoping once he became a dealer he might try stocking 2 or 3 buggies and see if they sell.
 
CorradoPsi said:
i just got a PM from wagnerov. thanks for looking into this. the shop is Top Gun Hobbies in lancaster pa. they had placed an order for my parts and nobody told them about your policy on not shipping parts to non-dealers. they called back a week later and was then told about the policy and why the parts weren't shipped. at that time they asked for paperwork to be faxed over so that they could become dealers. this is where the problem was, no paperwork ever got there. the owner is basically doing this as a personal favor for me, since nobody else around here has a swift, and my next closest dealer is an hour drive 1 way from me. i was hoping once he became a dealer he might try stocking 2 or 3 buggies and see if they sell.
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I'm on it. Just talked to John today and he should receive docs this afternoon. Apparently, their fax line is the same line as thier internet line. So, i've talked to John and he log-off on the internet line to open up the fax line. My documents went though today to Top Gun. Thanks CorradoPsi :)
 
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thank you roger. ill have to get on Dad's (john's) ass about internet usage on his sons time. lol
 
dxm2 said:
I'd love a bigger engine with more torque! Sign me up!

The terrain where I run is ungroomed dirt with lots of rocks and and other debris and I was hoping that a 12t clutch bell would give me better performance, although I'd be sacraficing top speed. I'm not sure it matters because I'm having a hard time finding a 12t.

Also, I removed one of the disks from the rear brakes to get more clearance back there, has anyone else done this? I haven't noticed any issues and the rear brakes still work well.
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The standard SH engine on the Swift is no top-end screamer, it's better suited to 13T or 14T pinions.

If you want to retain top speed then I guess the only solution is to swap the engine out for a screaming .21 on a 12T pinion or a torquey .26 with a 14T pinion. I think the .26 would be the less expensive route.

It seems that a lot of buggies nowadays run with a single rear brake disc. Under hard braking the weight transfers to the front and the back end goes light such that the back wheels can lock up even with a single disc.

Since adjusting my brake setup the flywheel binding isn't really an issue any more, but if I come across some more effective brakes discs I would certainly be tempted to try single disc setup, at least on the rear. Having said that, I'm looking around for a stronger throttle/brake servo and this might allow me to run a single standard disc.
 
CorradoPsi said:
thank you roger. ill have to get on Dad's (john's) ass about internet usage on his sons time. lol
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No prob bro :) . Actually, i just called John to make sure he got the dealer application.
 
yup i called tom earlier tonite, he seem surprised that it was handled so fast and asked what i did.
 
Further Disappointment with this Company

Has anyone changed the clutch bell on their Swift yet with the PRP replacement? The new Cir-clip on the inside of the bell that comes with the replacement needs trimming before it can be installed on the motor. Its hard enough getting the thing in there, but then I needed to dremel down the little tabs on the inside so the drive shaft would go all the way through.

Is this normal? Or am I way off base?
 
well roger and cameron took care of me. my LHS is now a prp dealer. now i have a parts source 5 minutes away. thanks guys!
 
Hi everyone,
Just joined the forum, great to see that there are so many Swift owners out there.
I havnt had my Swift for long, got it going great then ran it straight into a puddle.
I dried and cleaned everything that i could, but i am having problems with it now, it only seems to get to about 1/4 throttle and stalls. I have tried leaning and richening both needles but nothing seems to make a difference.
Anyone got any ideas on what i can try.
PS I am a total newbie to the whole rc scene
 

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