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Before this show started I noticed a promo for it and thought WTF??? Who in the world would let their kids get this far out of hand. I caught a little bit of this weeks episode and I just could not believe my eyes. These parents were letting their kids walk all over them. If I remember correctly the boy was 4 and the girl was 3. Both still using pacifiers and both obnoxious as hell. They showed a clip of the kids "normal" behavior and the boy was hitting his mother in the face. Several times. She just said please stop it and then started to cry after the 4th or 5th hit.

Now I am no parent but there is no way in the world I would let my kids come even close to this type of behavior. My grandfather believed in the leather belt for when his kids were acting up and my father did the same thing. I can only remember two times when I was ever spanked with it. Trust me that was enough. I knew it hurt and when I heard the word I straightened right up.
 
In this day and age the belt is considered child abuse.
What a fiddlesticking shame!
I grew up in fear of the "Wooden Spoon". I have to say, it worked. Just as mentioned above the meir word or sight of it was enough. One or two sharp ass swats on the butt during childhood was enough to last a lifetime.

IMO, (Let it be known, I'm not a parent)
Parents are afraid of scaring their children for life by inflicting pain on them. Well Its MO that they are scaring them far worse by not teaching them the reality of life and respect at a young age.

Unless a kid is retarded or has serious mental issues pain works well. It only take once or twice to realize you don't want to feel it again. It also takes a set of parents (2 are better then one) who will follow through and be consistent with punishment.
 
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Well as a parent of two boys (6 & 8) I can tell you they will go as far as you let them. It's a constant battle between them pushing and us resisting.

You do have to be very carefull these days when it comes to public discipline, I think the only thing that is permitted is a swat on the butt. My cousin had the cops called on him for taking his boy out to the van for a spanking.

With my boys the constant thing is their mouth. It gets them in trouble more than anything else. I don't permit backtalk, "but...", "yeah...", etc. and believe me they try me on a daily basis ;)

On the flip side of discipline, I've found spanking does little to nothing. What is super effective is removing the things they value the most, tv, computer, toys, going outside. Make them sit for 20 minutes with nothing but their thoughts and you accomplish much more than you can with a simple spanking.
 
Being a parent I know that strong will is a better concept then a strong spanking. I know that my parents spanked the heck out of me and I got the Leather belt with metal rings and a metal tongue. Believe me I learned real quick after that. That onl happened once. My son gets out of hand I just take things away from him. I came to realize that a fathers love is really strong and to dissapoint him is a far worse thing to feel then spanking. I think that I remember feeling that way and it was horrible. I felt like crap an all alone. I love my son and I am firm with him so he will understand the meaning of respect to his parents and elders. To run a muck like those kids did was just plain lack of courage and confidence.
 
I think jon would agree that one of the best rewards you can get as a father is when you bring your kid to work and everyone remarks at how polite they are.

Of course they don't know what goes on at home ;)
 
i watch that show, sometimes it unbelievable what the hell some little kids do. i know if i had a kid and he hit me i would have laid him out!
 
RCDad said:
I think jon would agree that one of the best rewards you can get as a father is when you bring your kid to work and everyone remarks at how polite they are.

Of course they don't know what goes on at home ;)
ROFLMAO!!

Totally like that. But that is because the child doesn't know the people well. A sign of embarassment.
 
My oldest is such a politician. He knows the President of the firm and looks for him whenever he comes to 'bring your child to work day'.

This year he yelled across the room during a breakfast gathering for the President to come sit with us, it was really something.
 
My son is more of the clown. He enjoys making everyone laugh. I love that. He makes me laugh even when I am scolding him.
 
I tell you, I never thought I would have as much problems with teachers until I had children. You literally have to threaten their jobs to get their attention.
 
I have seen my nephews teachers and they are useless. I think I remember what the teacher told my brother was..."It is not our fault your kid doesn't understand" WTF!!! HELL yeah it is!! It is supposed to be thier job to teach it a certain way because they are the ones with credentials! With that type of remark I just might have to send my kid to private school..
 
They only react when you get the principal/vice principal involved. Other than that it's worthless to talk to them.
 
jon2 said:
I came to realize that a fathers love is really strong and to dissapoint him is a far worse thing to feel then spanking. I think that I remember feeling that way and it was horrible.

Dude, you must know my mother. Long ago she mastered the "disappointed look" that always made me feel guilty. She wouldn't have to say a word. She'd just look at you and you would just start crying and apologize. She was the master. And as the master's son, I am now the master. I think. My 8 year-old is very responsive to it. But my 5-year old seems to somehow be a perfect incarnation of my still-living ex. And because of that, she has a perfectly fitting wise-ass comeback or deflection to nearly EVERYTHING I throw at her. Oddly enough the only time she gets unraveled is if I do swat her or send her to her room. Oh, you should see the drama then. I really think she'll be a famous actress someday. And what brings me sick pleasure is when they start being dramatic....well I can't help but laugh at them. And when you laugh, they just get madder. It's really fun. But all that aside, I love my girls with all my heart and wouldn't trade them for anything. They just had to learn my 2-word philosopy of parenting: "I'M BIGGER".
 
Candyman said:
They just had to learn my 2-word philosopy of parenting: "I'M BIGGER".


LMAO!! That just cracks me up. M son would come back with " I'll be big like you daddy and I am going to say that to you when I am bigger"

Then we laugh and the problem is done. Think he is like his mom in the sense that he would rather just get over the problem to enjoy the bigger things then dwell on the problem... scares me how smart he can react.
 
It's funny how they pick things up, I have a bad habit of saying 'Oy!' so my little son starting doing the same thing, problem is, he would do it to his mom ;)
 
RCDad said:
It's funny how they pick things up, I have a bad habit of saying 'Oy!' so my little son starting doing the same thing, problem is, he would do it to his mom ;)


Yup same here. Asian families tend to say that but more like "HOY!" My son will have the same thing when he gets older... or next year.LOL
 
I am REALLY blessed, my 3 are very very well behaved. We have spanked them from time to time,but not alot,just the "threat" of it does the job. It's funny,but taking things away from my 12yo boy doesn't work. I can take the gameboy away,he dosent care. Toys? Dosent care. He is the hardest one to disipline. My girls are easy,they are VERY emotional,the "disappointed parent" works. It really pains me to see how some kids treat their parents.
My brother's ex girlfriend had a 9 yo that "ran" the house. The only way to describe her was a BRAT. She is a single mom,and wants the world for her, but at the price of letting her run all over her. Its the main reason he left her,he had to disipline her,and he thought it just wasn't his place/he shouldn't have to be the "bad guy".
But I blame the parents. It is not the kids fault 99% of the time,its how they are being raised. They can blame TV and such,but the parents have control of the TV and the shows they watch,or more importantly DON'T watch. Heck I havent had cable or even local TV in almost a year. Some people at work say i'm almost being mean to my kids to not have TV on in the house. My kids still watch movies,but it is actually great to see them do other things than veg in front of the TV. They play so much better together now and actually play with the toys they have!!

Sorry for the book.
 
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