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Isn't new RC day so exciting? First though, before I get into the details, pics, and other stuff, I do need to clarify something. It WAS new RC day on Sunday, TBH I just didn't have time until now to sit down and make this post!

Ok, so any guesses on what I got (actually one of my relatives bought and sent it to me, I got to choose the RC)? I'll give you guys some hints, it's 1/16 scale, it's an MT (the category this post is under probably gave that away), and it's brushed (more on that later). No, it's not a Mini E-Revo, it's not made by any of the "big brands", it's the SG 1601 brushed (aka the popular HBX 16889 brushed re-branded)!


*Skip the part if you don't want to know the whole history of these models*

So a little history of the model here, the original model is the HBX (aka Haiboxing) 16889. So there's the HBX 16889 (brushed, MT), 168890 (brushed, it's the truggy version of the normal 16889, just different shell and tires), 16889 brushless (MT), 168890 brushless, and the 16889A Pro (it's a fully upgraded version of the brushless 16889, it has a full metal drivetrain, oil filled shocks, and a slightly bigger BL motor).

Then there's another brand, SG (owned and made by Pinecone Models). The SG 1601 (brushed MT, what I have), 1601 brushless (MT), 1602 (brushed, truggy), 1602 Brushless (truggy) are all re-branded HBX models (respectively, for example the SG 1601 brushed is a rebranded HBX 16889 brushed). Exact same models, just a different brand, and sometimes different body shell color sceme. Oh, and there's also the Flyhal FC600, which is a rebranded, truggy version of the HBX 16889A Pro.

*End of history*

I thought I was getting the brushless SG 1602, but when I opened the box, I found a brushed SG 1601 (MT)! Both are good rigs though, and I can always upgrade the 1601 to brushless (like what I did to my Wltoys 144001)! Now, the pics! (sorry to bore you all out of you brains with the above stuff!)

And yes, I still need to rip off the clear film on the body. You'll also see that I have Gorilla taped the chassis to protect against scrapes from bottoming out from drops, jumps, ect. I've also done a screw check (at least all the screws I can access easily, so I didn't take the car apart to check the diff screws and stuff). I've installed the included front LED lights, and am working on backing the body shell with Gorilla tape to reinforce it (even though I'm a more cautious driver, just want the body to last a long time), same as my 144001 buggy shell (yes, that was overkill!). I also just finished a second, extended battery try mod thingy last night, basically, it comes with an 800mah Li-ion pack, and the battery tray/chassis is just not big enough to fit my Awanfi 1500mah packs I use in my 144001. So I cut down a spare piece of paint stirrer I had (I have a big ol' pack of them), Gorilla taped over it (to make it black), drilled six holes, zip tied it onto the top deck, made my own little Velcro strap thing to secure the battery (the spare battery straps I had were way too long), add Velcro to one of my Awanfi LiPo and the battery tray thing, and boom; I now can use my bigger 2s batteries! I got this idea (of making and securing a battery tray onto the top deck for these cars) from this guy on YT. I'm also going to add some more simple mods to the car/body shell, I'll post more pics of those later. Hope you guys enjoyed seeing my new rig!

Also, here's a size comparison to my 1/14 scale Wltoys 144001!
 

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Very cool.
Thanks! I know it isn't an X Maxx or anything like that, but it's still lots of fun!
Like all the aluminum bits. Nice mix of show n go. 🖒🖒
Thanks man! I assume you mean my 144001 (SG only has a few metal parts, it takes the Xmaxx approach, strength through flexible plastic)?

The alu parts you see are actually stock, full metal shocks, metal chassis, center driveshaft, pinion (stock is metal, and the smaller one I have for the brushless motor is metal also), dogbones and CVDs, outdrive cups, steering bar, shock towers, LC Racing 1.2mm rear springs (stiffer than stock), steering colonms/posts, hinger pin braces, and mostly metal diffs (only the diff body/case is plastic). I'm gonna get metal front knuckles, front C hubs, rear hubs, and maybe a metal servo arm and steering cranks (extra bling, but not sure if I want them enough to buy the last two for <$15) eventually. I do like the stock bling and extra strength!

SG actually doesn't make metal kuckles, hubs, ect. for the 1601/2, because the quality, flexible plastic is so strong stock (just read/watch some reviews, the thing is as tough as an Xmaxx!).
Love the look! :)
Thanks Doom! Which one, the new SG, or my 144001? I think both look great (but I'm biased, as I own them and take good care of my RCs!)!
 
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Thanks! I know it isn't an X Maxx or anything like that, but it's still lots of fun!

Thanks man! I assume you mean my 144001 (SG only has a few metal parts, it takes the Xmaxx approach, strength through flexible plastic)? The alu parts you see are actually stock, full metal shocks, metal chassis, center driveshaft, pinion (stock is metal, and the smaller one I have for the brushless motor is metal also), dogbones and CVDs, outdrive cups, steering bar, shock towers, and partialy metal diffs. I'm gonna get metal front kuckles, front C hubs, rear hubs, and maybe a metal servo arm and steering cranks (extra bling, but not sure if I want them enough to buy the last two for <$15) eventually. I do like the stock bling and extra strength!

SG actually doesn't make metal kuckles, hubs, ect. for the 1601/2, because the quality, flexible plastic is so strong stock (just read/watch some reviews, the thing is as tough as an Xmaxx!).

Thanks Doom! Which one, the new SG, or my 144001? I think both look great (but I'm biased, as I own them and take good care of my RCs!)!
I like it. Its built like a nitro with an electric conversion. The servo arm will be iffy. On my crawler I run aluminum as I stripped 3 or 4 plastic. On my faster trucks, I usually stick with a servo saver due to speed and hard stationary objects dont fair good for them.

If its a mini, I probably would.
 

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Here is the second battery tray mod, as well as the radio for the SG compared to the DumboRC for my 144001. So as you'll see in the last pic, there is a little button above the grip, behind the throttle. If you look closely, you can see it says "AUX" next to the button, indicating that it controls the auxiliary port on the combined ESC/receiver. The front LED mentioned above plug into the AUX port, so I got excited, thinking that I could remotely turn on/off the lights. No other reviews and reviewers I've seen mentioned this little black button at all, so I though maybe they missed it, didn't mention it, or I had a new version of the radio with it? So I tried it out...and nothing, the button doesn't control anything, sadly ☹️. Later, when I was flipping through the manual, looking for anything interesting, the manual talked about the little button in the radio section. It said (infuriatingly), and I quote, "This button is disabled".
I like it. Its built like a nitro with an electric conversion. The servo arm will be iffy. On my crawler I run aluminum as I stripped 3 or 4 plastic. On my faster trucks, I usually stick with a servo saver due to speed and hard stationary objects dont fair good for them.

If its a mini, I probably would.
Very interesting, can you elaborate on the "Its built like a nitro with an electric conversion" part?

The 144001 take a heavy insparation from the excellent, underated LC Racing EMB-1 (1/14 scale brushless buggy, high quality, won't absolutely break the bank at ~$220, it's built a lot like a racer). The reason why I bring this up (the WLtoys 12401_ are based on specific LC Racing rigs too) is because the 144001, which is like a budget brushed basher version of the EMB-1, and the EMB-1 are both built ground up as electrics, they could be called "purebred" electrics, in fact, LC Racing and Wltoys haven't made a single Nitro.

If you look closely, you can see there is an adjustable servo saver on the right steering post, so a metal arm is no problem. I'm a more cautious driver, and the funny thing is, the only part I've "broke" on my 144001 was the stock 5 wire servo (when the whole car was bone stock), I stripped that in an unfortunate accident while driving indoors that included an unforgiving dining table leg (lol, I've learned my lesson!). The only reasons why I would upgrade to a metal arm is to reduce the flex in the steering system a little (though there isn't a ton of flex to begin with), and to add a little more bling. The servo I'm using is a drop in fit, the JX 1181PDI-MG (metal geared), it's a 17g servo (weight, not power!), so it ain't some beefy 50kg 1/10 scale servo, and I said there's a servo saver too so I don't see stripping any servo horns in the future. I also don't crash that much at all. Metal servo horn is $7, it's just not the most important upgrade I can do now to my 144001 (metal knuckles or better tires would take that spot)/
 

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Thanks! I know it isn't an X Maxx or anything like that, but it's still lots of fun!

Thanks man! I assume you mean my 144001 (SG only has a few metal parts, it takes the Xmaxx approach, strength through flexible plastic)?

The alu parts you see are actually stock, full metal shocks, metal chassis, center driveshaft, pinion (stock is metal, and the smaller one I have for the brushless motor is metal also), dogbones and CVDs, outdrive cups, steering bar, shock towers, LC Racing 1.2mm rear springs (stiffer than stock), steering colonms/posts, hinger pin braces, and mostly metal diffs (only the diff body/case is plastic). I'm gonna get metal front knuckles, front C hubs, rear hubs, and maybe a metal servo arm and steering cranks (extra bling, but not sure if I want them enough to buy the last two for <$15) eventually. I do like the stock bling and extra strength!

SG actually doesn't make metal kuckles, hubs, ect. for the 1601/2, because the quality, flexible plastic is so strong stock (just read/watch some reviews, the thing is as tough as an Xmaxx!).

Thanks Doom! Which one, the new SG, or my 144001? I think both look great (but I'm biased, as I own them and take good care of my RCs!)!
It doesn't have to be a Xmaxx to have fun brother.
 

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It doesn't have to be a Xmaxx to have fun brother.
Agreed! I'm one of those people who believes that you don't have to spend a ton of $$ for a lot of fun! And now that I've found and experienced brushless power (with my brushless converted 144001), *cough* you know what may be coming for the SG 1601 down the pipe line, so to speak...
 
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If I was forced to only have one RC it would be my 1/24 Deadbolt. These little trucks are so fun.
 
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