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Newbie question - actually, not even a newbie yet, since I don't have a truck.

But I want to get the Savage 21 or 25 - and probably by the time I do, the flakes will be falling in Rottenchester, NY - so my question: can I take this puppy out in the snow, or is that a very VERY bad idea??

And went I say take it out, I mean BURY it in the stuff...jump everything, slide all over - the fun stuff.

thanks!!
rich
 
The biggest most dangerous thing to any nitro RC vehicle is WATER. Since snow is water, u can see the problem.

Now - the reason water is so bad, is that it frys the electronics, which creates a 35mph savage cruising with no way to stop it.

If the electronics were waterproofed and a suitable failsafe were installed, then it wouldnt be too bad, just becareful not to get snow into the carb, as it would destroy the engine.

So to answer you question - it isnt a good idea to plow around in the snow, but it can be done safely, if the proper precautions are taken in advance.
 
As NA mentioned as long as you waterproof the electronics you should be OK. Of course when you are done for the day you will have to clean the truck right away. Using a hair dryer or a heat gun would work. You wouldn't want any thing to rust.....
 
I know that a lot of the members here run in the snow.
Waterproofing your ride is a must but don't let that discourage you from getting one.

With a few simple steps it will be a Snow Beast.

Get a truck and we can help you get ready. Seeing as how winter is on its way this will ge a popular subject here and you will get all sorts of tips, or move to CA. :)
 
Waterproofing is a great idea.

There is a tempurature factor too. When breaking in the engine, you need to get in the 190 degree range, for example. A hair dryer or a proper heat gun may help the process. You will want to check your engine temps frequently to ensure it's not running too cold. A temp gun would therefore be required. If you insist on running in the snow, you may want to warm your engine up every time before you start it (via heat gun). If you try to start a very cold engine, the internal parts may become brittle with the cold and break or wear bad.

the other thing is traction. you'll want some good tread and/or snow chains to keep you from doing propetual donuts.

Some of us cold weather RC people just choose not to run the risk or pain of running in the snow. I'd rather wait until the temps warm up and the ground drys.

good luck and welcome to the forum,
Rob
 
My technical knowledge on electronics isn't good enough to chance that - so I guess I won't be running around this winter :-(

Timig might be just right then - take it out stock before winter, and then break stuff, and during the long 6 months, save money and rebuild with bigger/stronger!

thanks for the replies!!!!
rich

On another note, I am SHOCKED at how fast and awesome your responses are to a total newbie - this is a great board so far in the 3 or 4 days I've know about it. The help you've given someone that doesn't even have a truck yet, is awesome!

I'm going to e-mail Mike this afternoon about potential sponsorship. I make some things that don't compete with any other sponsors that I think you guys will jump all over!
 
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Originally posted by RobH
Waterproofing is a great idea.
Some of us cold weather RC people just choose not to run the risk or pain of running in the snow. I'd rather wait until the temps warm up and the ground drys.

Don't let RobH scare you off. He is a very conservative driver.

Once a majority of people get the RC bug nothing will stop us! Give us daylight and we will run. Give us headlights and we will run at night. If its flat we will go fast, if there is any kind of bump or hill we will jump it or drive over it. Rain, Snow, or sunny day you will find us firing up the RC to go have some fun.

If you want to sit and look at your RC all winter thats cool but why not run it. Your going to break it weather its hot or cold out its all part of the hobby. Rule of thumb, If you can afford to break it, buy knitting needles and yarn.

-Ed
 
or get one of these
nitro-blizzard.jpg


Kyosho Nitro Blizzard.
 
Waterproofing your electronics is not too difficult. Buy a few balloons from the dollar store and put them over all servos, battery pack and radio receiver. If you use a failsafe put one over that too. After you put the balloons on use some sort of sealant, like rtv, around the opening of the balloon then either use a tiny zip tie or a twist tie, like on a loaf of bread, to secure the opening and you're done. Remember to remove your servo arms before applying the balloon and after you put the balloon reapply the servo arm. Only puncture once in the balloon with the screw to sevure the arm. You should replace the balloons at a minimum whenever you change arms or take off the arm for whatever reason.

As far as water entering the engine, even the most careful of us can have a little water enter the engine from time to time. I recommend using more air filter oil to keep the engine lubed a little better to prepare for a little water entering the engine.

If you so have a large amount of water enter the engine, I mean pretty much completely submerged, remember your engine will be running at over 200 degrees and you have the potential to crack the block, head, piston, crank, etc... when going from really hot to really cold. If there is no damage in the moving components then take off the air filter and remove the glow plug. Disconnect the fuel line and dispose of the possibly tainted fuel. Crank your engine with the carb fully opened and the engine vertical, like with your rc standing on it's tail. The best method is a little past vertical with the carb higher than the head. Add a little amount of fuel and repeat cranking several times. Lastly add a small amount of afterrun oil and repeat cranking again.

Reinstall your air filter, ensuring it is dry. Reconnect the fuel lines and try to start your engine. You engine will be pretty hard to start however if will start, 99% of the time. Your engine will not run very well until all of the residual after run oil and water are completely out of the engine. At the popint you get your engine started I would suggest, if you can and your electrical system still works, running at least a tank through it at about 1/4 throttle. Last step will bo to go back to running however remember to expecially add some afterrun oil after this session and make sure you work the oil in before storing your rc.


Bottom line here, don't be afraid to run in the snow or a damp environment just remember to be careful.
 
Originally posted by FastEddy

Don't let RobH scare you off. He is a very conservative driver.

more people in this forum may run in the snow. the group of people at our track, however, all put their nitros away for the winter. instead of nitro, they break out the micro RS4's and race at the LHS.

just another perspective.
 
Originally posted by FastEddy


Don't let RobH scare you off. He is a very conservative driver.

Once a majority of people get the RC bug nothing will stop us! Give us daylight and we will run. Give us headlights and we will run at night. If its flat we will go fast, if there is any kind of bump or hill we will jump it or drive over it. Rain, Snow, or sunny day you will find us firing up the RC to go have some fun.

If you want to sit and look at your RC all winter thats cool but why not run it. Your going to break it weather its hot or cold out its all part of the hobby. Rule of thumb, If you can afford to break it, buy knitting needles and yarn.

-Ed
Ya know, that's about the most sense you have ever made to me!!! Kudos.
 
Originally posted by rjcalnan

On another note, I am SHOCKED at how fast and awesome your responses are to a total newbie - this is a great board so far in the 3 or 4 days I've know about it. The help you've given someone that doesn't even have a truck yet, is awesome!

I'm going to e-mail Mike this afternoon about potential sponsorship. I make some things that don't compete with any other sponsors that I think you guys will jump all over!

You now see what makes RCNT the best forum on the net. Welcome, you will soon find not only a wealth of info, but also a wealth of fun and shennanigins.
 
rjcalan - glad to see you are happy to be here, as we are extremely happy to have you. May you find RCNT as your new home!

Welcome!
 
Hell yeah you can run in the snow!, check my gallery if you want to see it, I think Skymaxx might have some snow shots in his gallery too. I do recommend waterproofing everything, and a good thorough cleaning afterwards, it takes me about 2 hours of cleanup after I run in the snow. I would however avoid it at all costs once the salt and slag trucks hit it.
 
I am living in on the East Coast for a few months, and it has been raining for the last few days. I've been noticing alot of companies and malls have large parking decks. I took mine to one, and no-one bothered me. The security guard drove by, and gave me a wave. If you keep an eye out, you can find places to go. May not have dirt jumps, but the one I was at had concrete dividers taht were perfect for jumping.
 
FastEddy

I don't want to get into "rough" territory since I haven't paid to advertise yet and in most forums it's looked down upon, but my color machine will be here either this Wednesday or next. Shoot me an e-mail at [email protected] and we can talk more.

Again, the responses are incredible on here, and this place has made it to my "famed" links list on IE (you know, the little bar at the top LOL

Maybe if the finances work out well, I'll buy a decent used 4x4 HPI truck to throw out in the snow, and let the Savage hibernate in the winters ;-)

laterz...
rich
 
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When I first got back into RCs, after almost a 10 year hiatus, I started out with some cheap electric buggies. It was winter and you better believe that i took them out in all sorts of bad weather. Snow became my friend due to the fact that you can build some AWESOME jumps out of snowmounds!!!! And if you make a nice large patch of the soft stuff to land in you dont have to worry about breaking too much. Even when I did, the cost to replace stock motors and cheap manual speed controls was well below the cost of replacing an engine and much much simpler to get going than learning how to tune and such.

Not only all of that but there is nothing like the fun of running some spikey tires in a light electric 4wd buggy on ice. You can do all sorts of spins and power slides etc. I even went to the extent of setting up a little course for myself on the ice and timed it to see how well i could drive sideways through each corner.

I'm one of the guys that doesn't care what kind of weather is out there (except for rain) I'm taking my rides out whenever i get the itch.

Oh, and welcome to the bast damn RC community you will EVER find on the net.

Robert
 
Originally posted by rjcalnan
FastEddy

I don't want to get into "rough" territory since I haven't paid to advertise yet and in most forums it's looked down upon, but my color machine will be here either this Wednesday or next. Shoot me an e-mail at [email protected] and we can talk more.
laterz...
rich

We all have our special abilities and share them with each other.
What we don't want is people coming on and spamming their companies and heading off into no where land. If you are asked a question and have an answer please answer it its cool and not considered spamming you products. We just don't like to see non productive members hit and run.

RAMTech-RC does a great job of balancing his posts V. advertising. If I haven't thanked him for balancing his posts, Thank You.

I have seen the technology in action and think its wonderful. I am in the computer / printer industry and like to keep an eye on this aria. My question was more a fact finding question then a solicitation for business.

Thanks,
Ed.

I will send you a PM.
 
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